Music Not Diving with Scuba #083 Mat Dryhurst
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Aug 29, 2023 Mat Dryhurst, engaged in important work at the intersection of music and emergent tech, discusses projects like Holly+ AI and web3 interaction, haveibeentrained.com for opting out of Large Language Model training datasets, and the Interdependence podcast. They explore the impact of emergent tech on musicians and the importance of collaboration. Topics include gatekeeping in the music industry, consent and data in generative AI, regulation of web two, copyright challenges in AI models, potential of web three and crypto, and the compelling yet terrifying aspects of AI.
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Interdependent Music Replaces The Myth Of The Self Made Artist
- Interdependent music reframes independence as networks of mutual support rather than lone artists, highlighting distributors, engineers, labels and scenes as the real engine of culture.
- Mat Dryhurst traces this from his Southern Records experience and criticizes the social-media-era “independence” myth that isolates creators.
Bay Area Stint Sparked Skepticism About Streaming
- Dryhurst describes moving to the Bay Area and meeting tech people which demystified platforms like Spotify and changed his stance from enthusiasm to skepticism.
- He credits a conversation with Scuba for initiating his long-term skepticism of streaming’s economics and playlist logic.
Do Engage With AI To Shape How It Affects Music
- Engage with AI now rather than ignore it; tools expand creative capacity and delay increases loss to other interests.
- Use generative models as new affordances to create novel artistic distinctions, not just as shortcuts.