The Climate Movement’s Biggest Miscalculation (with Robinson Meyer)

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Nov 24, 2025

Robinson Meyer, founding editor of Heatmap News and a former Atlantic climate reporter, dives into the complicated world of U.S. climate politics. He discusses the Inflation Reduction Act and its unexpected shortcomings, particularly how it failed to win back young voters. Meyer explores the challenges of biodiversity loss, reveals why many clean energy projects favor red states, and debates the necessity of a right-wing climate constituency. His insights illuminate the complex landscape of climate advocacy and the political hurdles that lie ahead.

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Durability Assumptions Were Overoptimistic

Democrats hoped programs would become politically durable like parts of the ACA and thus not be repealed.
Meyer argues that belief was flawed because political dynamics and individual actors like Joe Manchin upended that expectation.

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Climate Didn't Reclaim Young Voters

Some on the Democratic left believed prioritizing climate would win back young voters.
Meyer notes that despite IRA passage, youth support for Democrats later declined, undermining that theory.

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IRA Protections Were Eroded Quickly

After the 2024 change in power, Republicans gutted key IRA pieces, especially EV incentives and solar/wind provisions.
Meyer emphasizes many communities with projects still trended away from Democrats politically.

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Climate activists spent a decade arguing that if Democrats passed a huge climate bill, created green jobs, and centered “climate justice,” voters—especially the young—would reward them.

They got their bill: the Inflation Reduction Act, the biggest climate law in U.S. history. Then youth support for Democrats, Republicans tore key pieces out all while red states took the money and blue states made it almost impossible to build wind, solar, or transmission.

In this episode, Jerusalem Demsas talks with Rob Meyer, founding editor of Heatmap News, about what the last few years have revealed about the U.S.' climate politics.

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