Economist Podcasts Get down to Syria’s business: coming talks with Turkey
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Jan 17, 2023 
Greg Karlstrom, a Middle East correspondent for The Economist, and Avantika Chilkoti, an international correspondent specializing in Brazil, delve into the evolving dynamics of Turkey and Syria as they seek common ground post-civil war. They discuss Turkey's role in the Syrian conflict and the implications for refugees. Additionally, they analyze the pressing hunger crisis in Brazil under Lula's leadership, contrasting it with the socio-economic challenges faced by the nation. The conversation also touches on the representation of atheism in U.S. politics.
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Hunger in Brazil
- Despite Brazil being a major food exporter, hunger has increased significantly, impacting 33 million people.
- Avantika Ghechelkotti expresses surprise at witnessing hunger among seemingly middle-class urban Brazilians.
Lula's First-Term Success
- Lula's first term saw successful anti-hunger initiatives like Bolsa Familia and a public procurement program.
- These programs, funded by a commodities boom, became models for development economics worldwide.
Impact and Reversal
- Lula's programs helped remove Brazil from the UN hunger map in 2014 by reducing malnutrition and poverty.
- Unfortunately, these gains reversed within a few years due to economic downturn and policy changes.