Economist Podcasts Ukraine 2.0: a revealing visit to Kyiv
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May 9, 2023 
Join Arkady Ostrovsky, presenter of the Russia podcast, Shashank Joshi, defense editor, and Rosie Blau, a China expert, as they delve into the heart of Kyiv. They explore the resilience of its citizens amidst conflict and the innovative military technologies emerging from Ukraine. The conversation shifts to China’s pressing demographic challenges, including a shrinking workforce and rigid immigration policies, while also shedding light on the curious tradition of rattlesnake roundups in America, blending culture with controversy.
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Ukraine's Reliance on Western Support
- Ukraine relies on Western support and worries about waning European interest and the 2024 US elections.
- They believe a successful counteroffensive will bolster continued aid.
Ukraine 2.0 Vision
- Ukrainians envision a "Ukraine 2.0" free from corruption and oligarchic control.
- This vision depends on societal and political changes, including potential challenges from demobilized soldiers.
China's Demographic Crisis
- China's one-child policy drastically reduced its working-age population and led to rapid aging.
- Unlike other countries, China avoids immigration to address labor shortages, with only 0.1% immigrants.