Glenn Diesen - Greater Eurasia Podcast Marta Havryshko: Ukraine Trapped in Narratives Designed for a Long War
Jan 1, 2026
Marta Havryshko, a Ukrainian historian and expert in Holocaust and Genocide Studies, offers a compelling perspective on Ukraine's situation amid the war. She explores the challenges of Western military support, highlighting significant resource shortfalls. Marta discusses the human cost of mobilization, the emergence of public distrust due to corruption, and the pervasive fear stemming from atrocity narratives. Urging a ceasefire, she emphasizes that an imperfect peace is essential for Ukraine’s survival, proposing that ongoing conflict risks making the nation uninhabitable.
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Personal Loss From Forced Mobilization
- Marta Havryshko shares a personal grave in Lviv for a relative forcibly mobilized and killed three weeks after conscription.
- She uses that loss to argue Ukrainians have the right to refuse suicidal mobilization and to flee danger.
War Should Be Measured In Lives, Not Land
- Assess the war by human lives and social damage rather than by small territorial percentages.
- Havryshko emphasizes casualties, amputees, widows, orphans, and military cemeteries as the true cost.
Manpower Crisis Driven By Distrust
- Ukraine is running out of people and volunteer enthusiasm has reversed into draft evasion and desertion.
- Havryshko links declining manpower to distrust in state, corruption, and failed operations.