The Taylor Swift Question and 2024

Will Taylor Swift deliver the White House for Democrats in 2024? And are conservatives bringing this reality into being by endlessly talking about her? Does the right's response to Taylor Swift have deeper lessons for its difficulties winning over young women? Charlie talks to two Swifties, Alex Clark and Daisy Phelps, about Swift's 2024 impact and the right way for the right to talk (or not talk) about it.

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