The Breakfast Club INTERVIEW: Anita Kopacz Talks 'The 'Sinners,' Ryan Coogler, Sacred Trinity, ‘Daughter Of Three Waters’ Trilogy + More
Mar 18, 2026
A lively conversation about a trilogy rooted in Orisha-based worldbuilding and ancestral spiritual practices. Discussion touches on links between Afro-diasporic spirituality and recent films, cultural resonance, and mainstream representation. There are personal stories about reconnecting with ancestors, immersive research trips to Charleston, and community rituals and retreats.
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Spirit Calling Sparked Her First Book
- Anita describes being visited by a spirit story that compelled her to write Shallow Waters, saying the spirits 'chose' her rather than her choosing them.
- She recounts initially being taught Orisha practices were demonic, then feeling at home researching Yemaya and ancestral practices.
Mainstream Art Signals Spiritual Reconnection
- Anita sees mainstream successes like Sinners and Ryan Coogler's films as validating widespread reconnection to African spirituality.
- She frames this as a long-buried tradition resurfacing after surviving underground during slavery and colonial repression.
Talk To Ancestors Using A Photo
- To connect with ancestors, Anita advises starting simply: look at a photo of a known relative and speak to them as if present.
- She recommends beginning with ancestors you knew in life to build conversational familiarity and spiritual comfort.
