Tech Won't Save Us The Green Transition Needs So Much Mining w/ Thea Riofrancos
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Feb 12, 2026 
Thea Riofrancos, associate professor and author of Extraction, studies the politics of resource extraction and climate policy. She discusses how renewables need vast new mining, contrasts EVs and fossil systems, examines geopolitical strains around mineral supply chains, and explores how tech growth and countries like Indonesia reshape extraction dynamics.
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Transition Is Material, Not Just Technical
- The green transition is a physical, material overhaul of energy infrastructure requiring massive mined inputs.
- Renewables shift extraction patterns rather than eliminate extraction, touching new places and geopolitics.
The Mid-Transition Trap
- We live in a 'mid-transition' where fossil fuels still expand while renewables grow, creating contradictory investments.
- That overlap risks locking us into an 'all-of-the-above' energy system instead of a full decarbonization.
AI Both Drives And Claims To Solve Mining
- Tech and AI increase mineral demand while pitching themselves as solutions for finding new deposits.
- This creates a circular dynamic where tech drives extraction and then promises to solve its own supply problems.
