Decoding the Gurus Bret Weinstein & Jordan Peterson: Two gargantuan intellects stare into the abyss
03:14:27
Peterson's Return Framed As Heroic Struggle
- Bret praises Peterson's daily effort to function amid chronic illness and frames it mythologically.
- Peterson responds with surprise and sober reflection about his struggle to perform.
Emotionality Fuels Parasocial Connection
- Peterson expresses genuine emotional engagement with listeners who seek encouragement.
- That emotionality partly explains his appeal and perceived sincerity.
Don't Use Friends As Your Sole Reality Check
- Test controversial ideas against rigorous critique, not just familial agreement.
- Use independent peer review and empirical checks instead of echo chambers for validation.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
The People Want What They Can What They Pay For
01:58 • 2min
The Vaccines Are Dangerous, Unsafe
03:34 • 2min
The Lablake? O, No, but You Came Up With the Lablak?
05:27 • 2min
I Will Never Repent, Never Surrender.
07:00 • 2min
Is There a Lablake in the Varis?
08:42 • 5min
Is It a Lab Escape? - That's a Political Consideration
13:25 • 1min
How to Identify a Human Induced Virus?
14:53 • 2min
Is There a Lablic in Cuvet 19?
16:34 • 2min
Is There a Conspiracy Theory?
18:36 • 3min
The Lablake Hypothesis Has Become Much More Likely
21:18 • 2min
Is Bretwodstey a Nerd?
23:35 • 3min
Is There a Consensus?
26:05 • 1min
Unityte 20. It's Memory Hold.
27:34 • 2min
Psychics, Is It Possible to Predict the Markets?
29:20 • 2min
The Dark Horse Pocast and the Gordan Peterson Pocast - The Scam
31:12 • 2min
I Suspect That Medicine Kills More People Than It Saves
33:37 • 1min
The Disclaimer Is Right, and It Could Be Wrong
35:04 • 2min
Is It Stunned?
36:43 • 2min
Hospitals Are Good, Yes, I Mhean
38:39 • 3min
The Hell You've Been Through Makes This Point Very Clear
41:19 • 2min
Jordan Peterson's Struggle With Mental Health
43:02 • 2min
The Herculean Effort
45:08 • 2min
I'm Not Laughing, but I Don't Want to Som Not Liking
46:43 • 2min
Taking Note of Self Agandizement and Narcesism
48:47 • 2min
I Don't Like Jordan Peterson's Politics, but I'm Struck Dumb Still
50:21 • 3min
You Can Hers a Difference, Bret No, No, Thes
53:00 • 2min
It Wasn't Easy to Take Me Out
54:43 • 2min
Brett and the Persecution Complex
57:05 • 2min
Is There a Nemesis?
59:04 • 2min
Is He Referring to the Economic Attack?
01:01:02 • 2min
Psychotherapy
01:03:04 • 2min
I Think Jordan Is Demonstrating a Deep Emotional Concern for His Audiences Well Being
01:05:13 • 2min
The Flipside of Narsissism
01:07:01 • 2min
The New Discourse - The Introduction Music to Jordan's Boadcast
01:09:08 • 2min
I'm Going to Hell WTH This, J P, Doing the Reverse.
01:11:21 • 2min
The Evolution of the Capacity for Language
01:13:12 • 2min
The Difference Between Group Selection and Linge Selection
01:14:44 • 2min
We're Doing a Lot of One Outmanship
01:16:27 • 2min
Why Brat Stands Up in the Face of Tyranny?
01:18:12 • 2min
I Think They're Just Ping-Ponging of Each Other's Theories
01:19:54 • 2min
The Bedrock of My Liberalism Is Nothing Like the Underpinnings of the So-Called Liberals
01:21:54 • 2min
Is There a New Dialogue?
01:23:25 • 3min
Is It a Slanted Playing Field?
01:26:36 • 2min
Gorenergy on Book Pivotal
01:28:45 • 2min
Jordan and the Lablake Theory
01:30:31 • 2min
Is There a Familial Context in Which to Test Your Theories?
01:32:17 • 2min
Is That Your Reality Check?
01:34:05 • 2min
Is There a Good Substitute for Critical Pier Review?
01:36:12 • 2min
I'm Not Sure if I'm Repeating Myself, but It's the Brin Trust That We Can Only Hope Society Is Ready For.
01:38:03 • 2min
Having a Conversational Relationship With Your Partner Is Not Something to Talk About
01:40:12 • 2min
Lineage Selection - The Great Idea in Modern Evolution
01:41:50 • 2min
The Problem of Altruism in Evolutionary Biology
01:44:04 • 2min
Evolution and Culture Processes
01:46:01 • 3min
Biological Evolution Is Not Fundamental, Is It?
01:48:46 • 2min
Evolutionary Biology - What Is Lineage Selection?
01:50:21 • 2min
How Does a Lineage Evolve?
01:52:09 • 2min
How Much Does the Competition Between Two Individuals Overmates Affect Their Genes?
01:53:57 • 3min
Isn't That a Dumbed Down Version of Group Selection?
01:56:30 • 2min
Group Selection Is Like A, Is It?
01:58:39 • 1min
Lineage Selection
02:00:09 • 2min
The End of the Tape
02:02:06 • 2min
Is There a More?
02:03:47 • 2min
Lineage Selection
02:05:24 • 2min
Is There a Cognitive Modal in Animal Behavior?
02:07:49 • 2min
I'll Try One More Maybe It's the Longe O Ganetin That Will Do Amillin
02:09:26 • 2min
What's the Evolutionary Basis for These Things?
02:11:51 • 2min
The Evolution of the American Political System
02:14:09 • 2min
Jordan Peterson on Lineage Selection - The Theory of Religion
02:15:43 • 2min
Did Jesus Rise From the Dead?
02:17:42 • 2min
YouTube Is Perverse Beyond Comprehensibility
02:19:25 • 2min
What's the Point of Social Media?
02:21:23 • 2min
We Don't Know Anything About Pharmacology
02:23:36 • 2min
Are They the Same Thing?
02:25:11 • 2min
Is the Heromyth a Reductive Description of Biology?
02:27:32 • 3min
Jordan Peterson - Isn't He a Theological Figure?
02:30:13 • 2min
Is Evolution Driving to That Pinnacle?
02:32:09 • 2min
Isn't Religion Just Another Form of Religion?
02:33:52 • 2min
Is Religion a Bad Ideology?
02:35:35 • 2min
Is There a Difference Between the Physical World and the Online World?
02:37:55 • 3min
Identity Isn't Merely What You Feel It Is
02:40:32 • 2min
The Construction of Identity Is a Socially Constructed Thing?
02:42:05 • 2min
Identity Isn't Complicated
02:43:57 • 2min
Identity Is Not What You Feel It Is, Right?
02:45:45 • 2min
The Online Environment Is a Greater Change Than the Printing Pres You Write
02:47:38 • 2min
Luxury Space Communism
02:49:14 • 2min
Is Bratt Able to Ignore Allf the Prevailing Wisdom?
02:51:11 • 2min
The Impact of Social Media on the Mind
02:52:58 • 2min
I've Said Something Bad My Senses, Right?
02:54:36 • 2min
Sighed Ie's So Close to a Correct Diagnose of What's Going on Here?
02:56:30 • 2min
I'll Go on Record, I'm More Sympathetic Than Most of the Oller Id W Bobble Heads That Were
02:58:03 • 2min
The Last Secret Clip
03:00:18 • 2min
The Ye or That, It's Unbelievable, I Shouldall Say.
03:02:22 • 2min
A New Generation of People - A New Wave of People, a New Generation
03:04:32 • 2min
Induction, Chris, Induction, in the Real World
03:06:06 • 2min
A Smorges Board of People to Follow
03:07:50 • 2min
Conspiracy Hypotheses
03:09:25 • 2min
Ther Conspiracy Hypotheses
03:11:01 • 2min
I'm Going to Make That Reference Again!
03:12:54 • 2min
The big dog of the Intellectual Dark Web, Jordan Peterson, is back! And this hero, this mythical archetype, is welcomed back from his long hiatus by DTG regular, Bret Weinstein . To his credit, Bret does the impossible and makes Jordan seem surprisingly humble and reflexive simply by virtue of comparison.
The duo cover a lot of territory, ranging from hot takes about how hospitals probably kill more people than they save (Peterson), the evolutionary modules controlling rape and genocide (Weinstein), how religion contains the ultimate evolutionary cheatsheet to ascend the hierarchy (Peterson), and how they are both absolutely crucial for understanding everything wrong with what's going on these days (BOTH).
So yes... Chris and Matt couldn't resist returning to this epic crossover of two guru favourites one last(?) time for a bit of decoding. There's a heaping of the usual trademark guru dynamics on display, as well as the obligatory ersatz academ-ese, mutual back-patting, and huge leaps of speculative reasoning. These guys ping-pong back and forth to build up a pretty impressive synthesis of latent religious symbols and Bret's bespoke alternative evolutionary theory of 'lineage selection'.
You will come away with your brain a smouldering ruin after dealing with so many high level ideas... you have been warned!
P.S. If you make it all the way to the end you'll get to hear Matt DESTROY a so-called philosopher's Low Quality Criticism with REASON and SCIENCE.
Links
- Darkhorse Podcast: Jordan Peterson is Back!
- Jordan B. Peterson Podcast S4E10: Minefields and the New Political Landscape | Bret Weinstein
- Critical Article on Peterson that appeared in the Times that he complains about
- TWiV 760: SARS-CoV-2 origins with Peter Daszak, Thea Kølsen Fischer, Marion Koopmans
- TWiV 762: SARS-CoV-2 origins with Robert Garry
- Nice blog debunking the claims made in Wade's Medium piece on the Lab Leak
- Detailed Twitter thread by virologist Kristian Andersen discussing lab leak investigations
P.P.S. The Alternative Title: 'Lineage selection hierarchy heroes 2: Choose your guru!' suppressed by the Distributed Australian Dilettante or DAD.