
The EI Podcast Can Europe thrive in a multipolar world?
Apr 30, 2026
Mark Leonard, co-founder of the European Council on Foreign Relations and author of Surviving Chaos, discusses Europe’s role amid rising global disorder. He explains concepts like 'unorder' and 'unpeace'. Short takes cover shifting rules-based order, China’s adaptive strategies, the four Cs reshaping geopolitics, and why Europe needs more risk tolerance and integrated policymaking.
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War And Peace Have Merged Into Unpeace
- The line between war and peace has blurred into 'unpeace', where conflict spills beyond battlefields into sanctions, energy cutoffs and civilian harm.
- Leonard uses modern conflicts' civilian casualties and economic choke points to show how violence now permeates daily life.
C4 Explains Compound Geopolitical Shockwaves
- Four converging forces — Capitalism, Climate, Chips, Civilizations (C4) — create compound instability that amplifies shocks.
- Leonard ties C4 to recent crises: financial collapse, COVID supply shocks, migration waves and inflation after Ukraine.
Architects Versus Artisans Define Global Strategies
- The 21st century divide will be between two mindsets: architectural builders of universal order and artisanal adapters who improvise.
- Leonard argues China exemplifies the artisan approach, preparing for chaos rather than imposing ideals.





