EP 113: How to Build a Real Estate Portfolio That Survives Any Market with John Schaub

In today’s market, a lot of investors are stuck.

Interest rates are higher. Insurance and expenses are rising. Deals don’t “pencil” the way they used to. And because of that, many are sitting on the sidelines waiting for the “perfect” opportunity.

But what if the deals that build the most wealth don’t look perfect at all?

In this episode, Courtney sits down with long-time investor and mentor John Schaub to break down one of his most profitable deals, a property he bought at full price, with little to no cash flow in the beginning, that most investors today would immediately pass on.

From that story, they unpack what actually matters when building a Real Estate portfolio that can survive any market cycle, including how to think about interest rates, cash flow, risk, and long-term wealth.

This is a conversation about shifting from short-term deal chasing to long-term portfolio thinking.

ATTENTION:The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only and reflects personal experiences and opinions. It is not intended as legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Real Estate laws, tax rules, and regulations vary by state and situation. Always consult with a qualified attorney, CPA, or other licensed professional before making any Real Estate or financial decisions.

Resources from John Schaub:

First Episode with Courtney: https://youtu.be/Xav7BbG-TMM?si=eTi3kkW8SySYpDNk

5 Top Lessons Learned from John Schaub: https://youtu.be/Ph1szR1y0-s?si=wZJtvL_NmQRtSJFX

John's Website: www.JohnSchaub.com

Join Courtney at her favorite workshop to attend all year:

John Schaub and Peter Fortunato, April 18-19th, 2026 in Tampa, Florida. Get your ticket there: https://www.johnschaub.com/product/john-pete-april-2026-tampa-seminar/

John's Best Selling Book, Building Wealth One House at a Time: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1264679556?linkCode=spc&tag=onamzconstrat-20&creativeASIN=1264679556&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.1ZG9LKF2ER35&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

John's Most Recent Book, Building Wealth One Newsletter at a Time (a series of his newsletters over the years): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXTQKNYY?linkCode=spc&tag=onamzconstrat-20&creativeASIN=B0FXTQKNYY&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.HUO5ESIPQLO5&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ofs_d_asin

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If you found this convo helpful, Subscribe to Courtney's Podcasts with various co-hosts:

The Strategic Success Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_t1CjX04xMtnNcKPG5LvTh-1m2QVIrY4

AI for REI Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_t1CjX04xMvxWaWZ6RTzx_Bmfe2Cx2xH

Louisiana Real Estate Talks Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_t1CjX04xMsUc4TcAH_uyYDMPzzU6xRy

Messy Money (Curative Title) Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_t1CjX04xMtBIyWGIO5Mvi2FDn2f436N