Ep. 27 - Shepherding Fellow Shepherds
Jan 28, 2026
Lance Quinn, an experienced pastor focused on staff leadership and discipleship, and Jerry Ragg, a seasoned pastor and mentor, talk about leaders caring for one another. They discuss biblical models of pastoral restoration. They highlight how busyness and isolation harm camaraderie. They offer practical rhythms like scheduled meetings, one-on-ones, and shared time that build trust and mutual spiritual formation.
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Leaders Need Shepherding Too
- Pastors are sheep too and need shepherding from fellow leaders, not just their flock.
- Biblical examples (Peter, Epaphroditus, John Mark) model mutual care among leaders as essential to ministry health.
Hidden Burdens Create Distance
- Pastors often shoulder both personal and congregational burdens which produces distance from peers.
- That distance can hide crises because leaders habitually present stability even when struggling.
Protect Relational Time With Leaders
- Do not shave off relational investment with fellow staff and elders to save time.
- Prioritize regular time with colleagues to prevent ingrown, isolated leadership and preserve collective wisdom.


