Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Charlie Puth

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Mar 24, 2026
Charlie Puth, singer-songwriter and Berklee-trained producer, discusses his upcoming album Whatever's Clever! and working with legends Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, and Kenny G. He talks about blending conservatory training with pop, convincing classic players to join him, gospel chord roots in pop, and the personal stories behind songs.
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Conservatory Training Meets Pop Volume

  • Charlie Puth blends conservatory training with pop instincts to create his identity.
  • He studies classic players like James Taylor and applies their harmonic colors to crisp, loud pop mixes he can crank up without fatigue.
ANECDOTE

How Michael McDonald And Kenny Loggins Came In

  • Charlie invited Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins to a casual blank session and became the engineer while they improvised parts.
  • Kenny whispered to let Michael play, Michael laid down Rhodes parts, and they built the bridge together in classic fashion.
ANECDOTE

How Charlie Mapped Kenny G's Solo

  • To get Kenny G on Cry, Charlie isolated a soprano solo from a YouTube Christmas clip using Moises and mapped a proposed solo as an audition.
  • He sent the transposed, melodyned map to Kenny G, who recorded a take that was ~75% like Charlie's map.
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