CISO Tradecraft®

#272 - Data Centric Platform Play (with EJ Pappas)

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Feb 23, 2026
Ross Young, a cybersecurity pro with banking experience focused on encryption and masking, and EJ Pappas, PKWARE Field CTO skilled in data discovery and protection. They discuss shifting to data-centric security, the blind spots caused by platform sprawl, differences between structured and unstructured data, AI as both accelerator and risk, and why encryption and DLP must work together.
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INSIGHT

Protect Data Not Infrastructure

  • Data-centric security means protecting information itself by placing protections as close to the data as possible rather than focusing on infrastructure first.
  • EJ Pappas explains this reduces motion-related risk and shifts assurance to knowing where data lives and who accesses it.
INSIGHT

Data Sprawl Breaks Central Control

  • Data sprawl and distributed ownership make "Where is our sensitive data?" difficult to answer because data now lives across endpoints, cloud, SaaS, and many owners.
  • EJ contrasts location-first thinking (eg Azure has card data) with value-first thinking (card data exists regardless of platform).
ADVICE

Tell Boards Measurable Data Outcomes

  • Report data posture to executives using measurable outcomes like protected data volume, retention limits, and access-behavior metrics, not only platform hardening tasks.
  • Use classification to drive protection (encryption, masking, redaction) and report tangible controls and age-of-data rules.
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