How Charlie Hoehn Landed His Dream Job With Tim Ferriss at 24 (& What It Was Like)

Jul 11, 2022

Charlie Hoehn, author and former director of special projects for Tim Ferriss, shares how he landed high-impact roles with creators like Ramit Sethi and Tucker Max. He explains his six-step method: showcase work, target the right people, audit opportunities, give a compelling gift, execute during trials, and sell the transition to paid work. Stories include pitching video help, joining a movie tour, and proposing a virtual internship to Tim Ferriss.

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ANECDOTE

Recession Pivot From Mass Applications To Free Work

Charlie applied to 100+ jobs during the 2008 recession with almost no responses.
He pivoted to offering free proactive work and internships, which led to roles with Ramit, Tucker, and introductions to Tim.

ADVICE

Audit Everything Public About Your Target

Do a thorough audit of everything public about your target to spot improvement opportunities.
Charlie mapped site friction, time drains, and content gaps even when he wasn't a specialist in that area.

ADVICE

Send A 60 Second Video Intro

Try sending a 60-second personalized video to stand out and build trust.
Charlie recommends a short intro, one observed problem, link to the gift, and a calendar link for follow-up.

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ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
In this episode I talk to Charlie Hoehn who’s worked with a couple influential figures, like Ramit Sethi, Tucker Max, but most notably he was the assistant and later "director of special projects" for Tim Ferriss.

This is a very special episode for me since Charlie is the guy who inspired me to embark on this journey of apprenticing for my mentors in the first place, and I hope he inspires you as well. Enjoy!

SHOW NOTES:
00:00 Intro
02:00 Life after graduation
06:00 How he landed jobs working with Seth Godin, Ramit Sethi, and Tucker Max.
14:35 Charlie's 6 step process to land your dream job
15:50 #1 Showcase
17:00 #2 Target
18:40 #3 Audit
21:05 #4 Gift
36:10 #5 Execute
39:45 #6 Sell
46:05 Going on a movie tour with Tucker Max
54:20 How Charlie got a job with Ramit Sethi
59:15 Biggest lessons learned working with Ramit Sethi
01:03:00 How Charlie landed his job with Tim Ferriss
01:19:40 Biggest lessons learned from Tim Ferriss

Useful Links & Resources:

Follow Charlie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/charliehoehn
Watch his Ted talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMP8h7fPpoY&feature=emb_title
Scribe Media : https://scribemedia.com

Post about the lessons learned marketing the 4 hour body: https://tim.blog/2011/03/10/12-lessons-learned-while-marketing-the-4-hour-body/
Ryan Holiday’s post on working with Tim Ferriss: https://medium.com/the-mission/23-things-i-learned-about-writing-strategy-and-life-from-tim-ferriss-b40bdfa892de

Charlie's Books:
Recession Proof Graduate: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990354814/ref=nav_signin
Play It Away: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615918174/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
Play for a Living: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990354857/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2

People That Got Mentioned:
Remit Sethi: https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/about-us/
Tim Ferriss: https://tim.blog/about/
Seth Godin: https://seths.blog/about/
Tucker Max: https://www.tuckermax.com/about/

And if you're reading this, don't be shy! Shoot me a DM on Instagram and let me know what you thought of this episode or let me know if you have any questions! My handle is @jeremyjohnmary!