Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

This Is America with George Saunders

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Feb 8, 2026
George Saunders, acclaimed novelist and Booker Prize winner known for compassionate, inventive fiction. He discusses his new novel Vigil, its afterlife setting and climate themes. Brief stories about near-death moments and a formative Singapore experience. Conversations about crafting difficult voices, moral stakes of writing about climate denial, and literature’s role in comfort and connection.
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ADVICE

Understand To Act More Effectively

  • Do seek to understand harmful actors from the inside so you can act more effectively.
  • Use that understanding to choose when to resist firmly, not to excuse or enable violence.
ANECDOTE

Pulled Over By Militarized Policing

  • Saunders recalled being pulled over near Oneonta and encountering a militarized officer with an attack dog.
  • He apologized profusely and watched the officer's posture collapse into youthfulness.
INSIGHT

Information Silos And Economic Strain Fuel Rage

  • Saunders links political extremism to siloed information networks that reinforce projections.
  • He also highlights rising wealth concentration and job insecurity as drivers of societal panic.
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