Travel with Rick Steves

748a Quirky Oslo; Last Empty Places; Herbal

Mar 21, 2026
Curtis Rojak, an American expat who runs bike tours in Oslo, shares Norwegian quirks like cabin culture, big windows, EV life and hyggelig habits. Peter Stark, a historian of wild America, recounts journeys through the nation’s darkest, sparsest places. Mimi Prunella Hernandez, an ethnobotanist, talks about herbal traditions, backyard medicines, and sensory ways to learn plants.
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ANECDOTE

Using Nighttime Satellite Photos To Find Empty Places

  • Peter Stark picked dark patches from NASA nighttime satellite photos and traveled where lights were absent.
  • He used those black spots to identify remote regions for on-the-ground exploration instead of well-trodden sites.
ANECDOTE

Northern Maine Emptiness Centers On The St John River

  • In northern Maine Peter Stark explored the St. John River region, a border area appearing black on satellite images with vast uninhabited forest.
  • He links emptiness to borders and time zone lines, which often cut through sparsely populated country.
ANECDOTE

Southeast Oregon Is Remarkably Far From Services

  • Southeast Oregon (near French Glen) stood out as extremely remote; a spot farther than 100 miles from common services like Walmart or Starbucks.
  • Peter Stark found private ranch lands and a culture mixing survivalists, hippies, and those living outside conventional law.
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