Michelle Grattan talks to Australia's Chief Scientist Ian Chubb about the lack of a science portfolio in the ministry, his hopes for his working relationship with Tony Abbott and much more.
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The Making of an Autocrat
Search: "The Conversation Weekly" for our new series. Is America watching its democracy unravel in real time? In The Making of an Autocrat from The Conversation, six of the world’s pre-eminant scholars reveal the recipe for authoritarian rule. From capturing a party, to controlling the military, Donald Trump is borrowing from the playbook of strongmen thoughout history. This is the story of how democracies falter — and what might happen next.
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