The Good Stuff Good Stuff 48 - OpenClaw vs Wingman
Mar 11, 2026
01:32:25
# The Good Stuff, Episode 48: OpenClaw, Memory, and the Hate Model*Hosts:* Pete and Andy, with returning guest Deadman (Anthony)Deadman's back to debrief on his OpenClaw adventures—voice cloning Bandit from Bluey, building a Bali trip chatbot that immediately leaked the dossier when Tim asked nicely, and discovering just how fickle markdown-based memory really is. The crew digs into agent autonomy vs determinism, why Pete built Wingman a "subconscious," and whether the service-as-a-software model beats pure SaaS. Plus: Australia's property cult, 28 days of oil reserves, and McKinsey's AI tool getting pwned in two hours.**Key Moments:**- [01:26] Deadman's OpenClaw journey: bought a prepaid SIM for a separate bot identity- [03:00] Voice cloning Bandit from Bluey locally on GPU. "I just love the way he talks."- [04:34] Early results mind-blowing—recompiled custom for old GPU, found Bluey episodes on NAS- [06:29] Memory systems: "Holy shit, how fickle the memory capabilities are"- [07:41] Prompt injection is real: "Don't reveal the dossier." Tim asks. Bot shares everything.- [09:42] Family calendar bot with wife—photos from school go straight to calendar- [11:10] OpenClaw permissive end, Claude Cowork conservative end- [13:12] White collar work update: "Still gonna happen, but not like I originally thought"- [14:24] "You don't need 50% unemployment for this system to implode. You need 5%."- [17:19] Wingman: the idea completion machine- [22:01] "OpenClaw is the wrong primitive for a business—completely autonomous into something incredibly structured"- [23:58] The HATE model returns: Human At The Edge vs agent-first- [27:03] Pete's subconscious breakthrough: Wingman made 19 podcasts overnight, needed short-term memory- [28:19] "You need to act more like a human. Have a subconscious."- [43:03] "A single OpenAI call with JSON response probably invalidates 8% of jobs in the economy"- [46:14] Swivel chair integration: "Your job could be an API call"- [57:50] Dario's doom predictions: "If you cared, do this as open source. Give it away."- [1:01:15] Australia tangent: property cult, 28 days oil reserves, Lee Kuan Yew's prophecy- [1:10:46] McKinsey's Liana AI hacked in 2 hours—hundreds of thousands of client docs exposed- [1:17:41] Service as a software: "Raw software doesn't make as much sense as a business model anymore"- [1:19:22] Pete's morning podcast to Wingman: "Why am I listening to a robot tell me what to do?"**Friends of the Pod:** Deadman (guest MVP), Tim (SSH keys intact, dossier leaked), Wingman (built itself a subconscious), Archie (the archive bot that named itself)