Trapping Trump — Alice Tovey, Laura Hughes, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, David Attenborough

Mar 24, 2023

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Guest Fearmongers on A Rational Fear this week include:

Alice Tovey 🎟 Performing at MICF in Not Like Other Ghouls
Laura Hughes 🎟 Performing at MICF in Laura Hughes Presents: Laura Hughes, Laura Hughes and some other Laura Hugheses

On this episode we talk:

🌏 David Attenborough reads the IPCC report.
🪧 Nazis in Melbourne.
🎃 Trump's Arrest.
🌝 Samsung replacing the moon.

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This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. Good evening, Lewis.

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Hello, Daniel. How are you?

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I'm good. I'm good. And you sound good. You look good. You. You look taller. For some reason. I don't know. Maybe it's my screen. Maybe my screen is higher than usual.

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Yeah, I don't believe I've grown. But it will be thrilling if I had it would kick me over from just like regular tall until weirdly tall.

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Well, our Patreon subscribers are growing this week, we grew by one so big thank you to Sam Arnold, who joined up on Patreon. We've got a few of you now. And now I'm, I'm Louis. I don't know if this is rude of me to say this to our audience. But I want to get a few more because I want to hire an assistant. Oh, because if you've ever thought about supporting the podcast ship into the Patreon, it's you know, the price of a cup of coffee these days, like even less, like we've kept our prices the same. And coffee has gone up sky high. Like yeah,

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Oh, now I feel threatened. What? Yeah, you you feel threatened

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and you work at the Youth broadcaster? You've got younger, smarter and funnier people around you all day long.

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That's true. But what are you actually going to do with this assistant? Because I have to admit, if you're asking for money, you know, it's not exactly like you're curing cancer here begging for an assistance. I feel like you might need to give us some more information.

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They're going to be you know, writing writing the podcast notes publishing the podcast. They're going to be organising guests. There's a whole I've got a list of things to do. It's very exhausting to make a whole podcast.

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Oh, I mean, I can only assume that's why I don't do anything.

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I don't know that you and your fancy producers at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

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That singular one single producer.

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Okay, very good. And give her your cell phone. Of course. Yeah. Well, that's good. Anyway, have you met? Do you know anyone

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who's looking for an underpaid job? Yeah, dude, everyone at the ABC? Yeah, well,

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Tonight and Australian Army helicopter has crashed into Jarvis Bay, the Defence Minister said it's the closest thing we'll get to a new submarine until the 2040s. And with the New South Wales election just days away, Premier Dominic Paris, he regrets that he and his wife could have made a few more voters in time for election day. And after already using code red and time bomb in order to describe the IPCC report. You're not a nation of bits that analogies to climate change are an endangered species. It's the 24th of March 2023. And this is a rational fear

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Working irrational fear, I'm your host, former Labour Party Bus Driver Daniel itch and this is the podcast that makes Aaron Sorkin newsroom look a bit like a documentary. Let's make our fear mongers for tonight. Guests. Number one. They're one of Australia's best Laura Hughes's. They'll go by the name of Laura Hughes and they'll be joined on stage at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival with several other Laura Hughes's it's the one and only well actually turns out one of many Laura Hughes's. Welcome to the podcast Laura yours.

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Thanks for having me.

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Laura. Just how many Laura Hughes's are going to be in your show in Melbourne. They are

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going to be seven including myself. But 1000s

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actually Googled you to find your bio today and I went I went to Laura here's Comdata you I found a Laura Hughes who is like a corporate coaches who helps you think of mindset growth and all that stuff.

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There's so many Laura uses they fought me there's one that paedophile and that's the worst one for me. I get a lot of emails from

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God Oh, dear. Do you have you're working with children? Check Laura.

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I have so many I'm ready. I didn't even work with children but I was like I need it just

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to go around and knock on everyone's door when you move into a neighbourhood and just go I'm not that lower here. Exactly.

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And then Melbourne Comedy Festival show, not like other girls refuse is to have a pun in the title is The horrifically and musically gifted hours Toby Hello us you are mixing horror and cabaret in your festival show are you worried it could be too spooky?

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It's gonna be a real Fright Fest day and I hope that you love jaunty jingles the scariest thing of all.

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You know me. I love Georgia, because Louis will tell you how much I love everyone. He didn't go.

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He you're a gentle man. He loves he's a little jingle boy. And it's sufferable

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I love also Louis. It's the first time we've been on the podcast together. Usually we can't be in the same room at the same time. This is so lovely.

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It's really nice. I'm just waiting for one of our internet's to fall apart. But for now, let's let it ride. Yes.

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And if you want to learn how to be rich, our next guest will tell you how to do that. And his comedy special at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Golden Handshake. It's Louis Harbour.

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Oh, that's true. Yeah. Okay. That's right. Exactly. One day before irrational fear hits the stage at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. I'll be doing a live comedy show at the Melbourne town hall with my friend Michael hing. It will be very silly. I assume.

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I was just going from the coffee off the website I

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assumed you at least wrote what you were planning to do. You know how it is at the Comedy Festival show you you send in something and then you're right to that.

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So did you say on hand shake or handshape ham sham che

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Alice? Honestly, insane things you need to know to listen to our radio show. If you haven't listened to it before don't bother starting now. I would say it's just it's we're so deep into a bunch of insane storylines that it would take too long on peak where the last of daytime radio.

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There is a lot of in jokes. There's a lot of you can kind of catch up at any point though, Louis, like I dip in and out when I'm driving around town. And I'm like, oh, yeah, back on the ham stuff. That's good.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, at one point, he just decided that it would be funny to say, congratulations, you've won yourself a ham. But he's a vegetarian. He doesn't know how much ham costs so much so much. He's like, so let's just give away a ham every week. And I was like, that's gonna bankrupt the ABC. So we gave away one ham to one person. The ABC legal thing was so insane. They were like, what if someone wins it who's like Jewish or Muslim who doesn't eat ham? It's like well, then we might send them the ham.

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Plus, you got to be in the pockets and feed but Toki you can't have that.

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And now we just made like 1000s of Golden Handshake earrings that we give away anyway, it's a nightmare. No one on this podcast cares.

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It's a whole thing. Coming up later, after inviting both Chris Mullins and Dominic paradise on the podcast and receiving very polite knows we are joined instead by independent candidate for the Northern Beaches. Jackie screwby will ask her how insular is her Peninsula. But first, a message from this week's sponsor.

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David Attenborough. Excellent. This week's first fear Nazis turfs and the Liberal Party expulsions. Oh, my What is it with Melbourne and Nazis? This is the weather maybe the Yeren reminds them of the Rhine or maybe it's the unbearable levels of racial tolerance. But in a very confused scene on the weekend, Nazis joined anti trans protesters who were joined by trans rights protesters who were not joined by anyone trying to catch the 86 tram anywhere because there's no way they could and on top of it, the baddies in this case the anti trans protesters were upset that the police led even worse baddies Nazis into their protest hours. What the hell is happening in Melbourne?

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Oh my goodness, it's such an upsetting and hateful story. This person Posie Parker Parker Posey, already appropriating the name of a queer icon is a hate crime. But a bunch of turfs turned up to Parliament and they've kind of created this thing that where they say trans people, they're so dangerous. They should be all just eradicated. They also say that trans people don't exist. So they've created Schrodinger as queer. And they've gone and protested that it's just super frustrating, especially the cops that turned up as well who allowed the Nazis to march through the streets if you've not seen the footage, it's horrific, but the excuse that they gave to the protesters was all I'm just doing my job, which is like a fine excuse. If you're a Subway sandwich artist who's been told to just use schnitzel instead of bread because they slipped to an extra fibre but not if you're defending Nazis. That's not alright.

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It's also just like such a hair's breadth from I was just following orders, which of course, famously from the Nazis.

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Absolutely, it was

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it's weird that the police just thought it was part of the anti trans protesters

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and if it's weird that the cops let the Nazis in AKA a lot of their friends

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but it's so but it is weird because you know, they're not dressed like anti trans protesters. They're dressed like the they've come from. They're like they got out of bed from their pyjamas. They're like all in black.

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Yeah, they're in black shorts shorts, which is yeah, I didn't think that hot pants with a Nazi uniform, which like, credit where credit's due I love a good hot pan but not on a Nazi.

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It was almost indistinguishable from a lady gaga backup dancer it's terrifying genuinely like you kind of like it's always crazy when you like the Nazis are back. What what are we doing the Nazis

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it's interesting in that Victoria seems to be like the home of Nazism. In Australia. For some reason. There's been long reporting about right wing radicals hanging out in the Grampians chanting anti Jewish sentiment. And there seems to be a huge rise like over the last 10 years like a 320% rise in right wing plot attacks and violence like direct direct Skype threats to the Australian people like the Nazis are for all intents and purposes. You know, the new al Qaeda in Australia. The AFP are really deeply concerned about this right.

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Do you think it's the weather? It's just the most similar to Germany?

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Could be Yeah, can you just Nick,

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you can't wear those uniforms in Queensland. Like if the further you get to the closer you get to the equator, you just you can't wear an overcoat it doesn't work. I mean, yeah, as you're saying I was there were Nazis in shorts. He was the only one who you weren't scared of like all the other Nazis you like, these guys are fucking Nazis. He like well, that guy's Nazis in shorts. We can hit his knees. Fuck that guy. He's easy.

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I'm not scared of men as long as I can see their carbs but I'm just hoping that what these protests highlight is the absurdity of transphobia because when you have literal Nazis on your side, like Sikh hireling and stuff, you're on the wrong side team, but you can't dress it up in whatever faux feminism you want. This is bad stuff.

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The turfs were there going on? Oh, we weren't with the Nazis. I mean, like, just visually, clearly they were with the Nazis. But in a world where the Nazis were getting attacked by the anti turf protesters and the Turks themselves, then the Nazis would have been fighting a war on two fronts. Historically,

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a bit like q&a on crack. This is a rational fear.

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This week second fear any moment a former president could be arrested for using campaign funds to buy the silence of a porn star he had sex with once Yes, Donald Trump could be arrested at some point this week. We don't know one we don't know when it's you know, it's been he tweeted on Tuesday that it could happen any moment now. So that whole world has been on tenterhooks. This all goes back to when Donald Trump use $130,000 of campaign finance funnelled through his lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay the silence of stormy Daniels and it all kind of comes down to a bit of paperwork. Yeah, it could be along the lines that you know, kind of paying off reimbursing Michael Cohen through like a dodgy invoice or something like this. Yeah. What is going on here with Donald Trump?

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It's very exciting. I feel like that almost been arresting him for years now. But it feels like it's getting closer. Maybe fingers crossed for everyone. But my favourite part is the unhinged part about him, like tweet will true thing about it on his stupid little website. And the fact that there's been all these like deep fake videos about it and people already putting out deep fake videos of him on the way to jail. And I feel like that's how he found out like he saw a video thought he saw a glimpse into the future. And that's why he truths about it. Like that's why he tweeted about it. About

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ask like this whole arrest over appropriating campaign funds doesn't just seem a little bit quaint with everything else he's done.

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It does. I mean, I feel like this is going to be the first they try and get him on anything. They're desperate. But the stressful thing is that even if he gets arrested, he can still become president because the laws are different over then, like so he can Jelly

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exotics running for president now. So anyone can do it.

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In Australia, you can run for parliament if you've been convicted of a crime, but in America, you can, you know, apparently he could do it from jail like he can actually run as president and become president from jail if he wants to.

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If he does go to prison in the sort of Al Capone sands, you know, if they just get him on campaign finance fraud, but if he's there, I hope he doesn't run for president. I hope he shoots another season of The Apprentice. Can you? Donald Trump day block. I mean, I'm here with Cyrus the virus, Snake Eyes, and got it. Oh, Pete. And the challenge this week, see how many mobile phones you can sneak through

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all that, Louis? How are they going to send him to prison? They can't cop him. His hands are so tiny. You'll slip I just thought it was funny on the footage in New York this week at the front of Trump Tower that they were just like five people with bullhorn horns, which means they're one shy away from a netball team if they exclude the wing attack.

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Yeah, that was after he called for the protest and five people showed up so much of a threat.

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Just Rudy Rudy Giuliani out there with a bunch of oranges going here. If you need Donald here, if you need

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rational fear, it is the end of the world. You might as well laugh about it.

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This week's third fear unless it's going to destroy the world. We don't often talk about technology on this podcast. But you know, chat GBT, we've spoken a little bit about this week, Samsung has revealed that it has been replacing things in people's photos namely the moon, I read it user did an experiment where he printed out printed off the moon he made it really blurry in Photoshop, printed it out, stuck it on the wall and took a photo of it with his camera. So it looked nothing like the moon. But the AI inside the Samsung camera automatically replaced that picture with a picture of the moon. Samsung is just going around replacing the moon in everyone's pictures,

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saying Dan is that they? Yes defied the moon.

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What else should Samsung replace if they're replacing the moon? You know, does this give them licence and other tech companies licence to replace other things in your pictures? What if you wanted a picture of a really blurry thing, but you couldn't get it?

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Wow, I didn't know why. And why are they doing that? Because they just think that Moons look a bit shit.

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But no, because they can so and the The amazing thing is that the one side of the Moon faces the Earth at all times. So no matter where you are on the planet, whenever you look up at the moon, it's going to be the same image of the moon. So if you're trying to take a photo of the moon if you're if you're the kind of person that sees the moon and wants to zoom in and get a shot of the moon, Samsung will just replace the moon with a really crispy picture of the moon.

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What about what about the blood moons?

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Do they have those on file? I don't know. I don't know. That's their you know, that's my question.

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What about if I pull my pants down in front of the camera? Well, I replace me with a stump but

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I don't need to get enough craters for your but

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I'm happy for them to replace pictures of me. I take the worst photos so I'm like, give me a glow up since on the show many

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of you they just put another law of using that it'd be

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I regret the name of my show.

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It would just be nice if they could replace photos of my parents with one of them looking proud of my career choice. It's a joke. I love you mom and dad. You're great.

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It is a joke. Alice Toby's career is going really well. She's you know, she's she works on everyone's TV shows we're very proud of here at irrational fear.

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Do we know what year Samsung was founded? Was it in 1969? Because it is possible. They were complicit in the faking?

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Thank you for being brave enough to say,

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thinking we're all thinking,

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what kind of podcast would we be if we didn't have at least one conspiracy theory.

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We'd have more listeners if we had more conspiracy theory.

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If you just ate some of the elk meat that I send you, this podcast would be one of the biggest in Australia.

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Samsung, unfortunately was founded 85 years ago 1938

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That proves my theory, it's entirely possible that they would ever 1969

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Also think about how long it took James Cameron to develop the technology for Avatar to it is totally reasonable that it took to the 30s till the 60s to fake a moon landing.

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But why did the footage look so shit? In the 60s?

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Yeah, well, yeah, how come Samsung didn't replace it with better footage

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yet? Where were the Navi on the moon

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theory debunked.

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I'll be back with a new one next week.

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Oh, we need it. i It kind of begs the question like What is a picture

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when the AI photos came out? You when that lens or AI thing came out? Did you guys give it a go? Did you give yourself With a little glow up in the in the AI No, I made I'm beautiful. Beautiful. You all broke the AI. They were like, We have to make her less beautiful.

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Do you remember the day that Samsung was down? That was my face? Sorry.

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I didn't because it costs money. So I was like, oh, nothing's smart. That's

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on Paul shouldn't have to pay for a face like you've got to face.

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Exactly do it for free to robot. Why am I paying a robot?

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That's a good point. I mean, I would buy a Roomba, but that's different, I guess. Did you guys do it? Did you? Yeah, absolutely kidding me. I'm so vain. I wake up in the morning was like, why does it run the clock? And why haven't I done it yet? And then I did it all day.

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What do you like astronauts? Astronauts? Yeah,

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like mythical figure. There was. There were like, I would say, it felt a bit like they had just googled, like, white guy, brown hair glasses. And then they just fused me with a bunch of other. Like, there was a few where I looked a bit like Adam Scott, the actor, which was quite nice. But then there was somewhere I looked like, I would say, someone who founded a yoga studio in 1978, and had since been in prison for 40 years. But the things I did to the people in my yoga studio in the 70s, like, really just like, skinny, and like really long arms, but kind of like piercing eyes, like just like a six pack. But it made me look like a an AI sex pest. And it made me question myself, because on that, once you see the scales of what you can be, like, on one hand, I could be a loved actor, Adam Scott, who I think is wonderful. On the other hand, I could be a sex past. And then you can kind of see both of those versions of yourself going forward and every day. And I guess it gave me the sort of Laura Hughes paradox. Like I didn't really know who I was. So I decided not to ever do it again.

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I think it makes a beautiful cult leader Louis, you really you have called me to potential.

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Do you know when I was a kid, when people asked would ask me what I wanted? That's That's what I told them. That's not

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are you serious? Yeah. Yeah.

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Do you have like some kind of merchandise? Or do you do like a Eucharist? What would you do like a Eucharist? Oh, like, Oh, it's a Catholic process of sharing your body as a bread?

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Would I be mixed? Yes. No, no.

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Do you have a harem?

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Why do you get into why did you get into the cult game? If it's not to be a slot? I don't understand anyone who's like a good cult leader. Like why did you bother just go to work?

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It's the same thing as like a social football team. It's just nice to hang out with people.

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And have them do your bidding. I had

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some friends who made a documentary about cults in Australia once and we were having a beer. I was like, what was like the funniest story about the cults. And they were like, Oh, it was pretty funny. There was this woman who went to like a health thing like a health fair in Byron Bay. And they, she met this person who ended up getting them into a cult, and this woman was like, I'm the second coming of Jesus. And she ended up getting involved in this cult. But there were only three people in the cult. It was her the cult leader and one other follower. And eventually, the other follower left. So it was just her and the second coming of Jesus. And then eventually, after like two or three years, the woman was like, What are you still doing here? I'm clearly not the Second Coming of Jesus. And then the leader left the cult. So the only person left in the Gulf. And she was like, Oh, I've been in a cult. I've been in a fight.

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Ah, yeah, that would be me. I would be the second coming of Jesus and I would get frustrated with my own shitty cars. What

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are you doing here? Here all your fear is rational.

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just pausing the podcast here, Louis, do you think Samsung's efforts to replace people's real moons with the fake Moon is pretty ethical.

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I don't really know if it matters enough to be ethical or unethical. It's just a weird thing.

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Well, I just want to pause the podcast here just to talk a little bit about Australian ethical. They are a big financial firm. They've been going since 1986. And they've been looking after people's money in really ethical ways. So they haven't been replacing it with pictures of fake money like Samsung would do. They've been you know, putting it in stuff like low carbon businesses, renewable energy. They definitely don't invest in things like fossil fuels. They look after companies that are part of the solution. Not part of the problem, though, is I'm thrilled

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and very excited to be partnering with Australian ethical. I think last week we mentioned I saw them in the news. I saw them in a guardian headline, I was like, Oh no. Who have we saddled ourselves with? And then it was like, Oh no, they're divesting from a bad company who was gonna kill a bunch of koalas and I'm like, Ah, a superannuation company in the news for the right reasons.

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What year is this? That company has LED lights a company we've spoken a bit about on this podcast, so yeah, well, darkness Try Nesco keep it up and thank you for sponsoring a rational fear

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this is a rational fear.

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I looks like Jackie's group has got better things to do before three days before the election so good on her. She's not coming on rational fear tonight. Let's wrap it up so big thanks to everyone who joined us on irrational fear Louis harbour Alice Toby. Laura Hughes. Alice, what would you like to plug?

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Yes, I'm doing a show called not like the other girls at the Melbourne Comedy Festival and the Sydney Comedy Festival. So if you head to Alice toby.com You can book some tickets it opens next Thursday. It's going to be very silly. Looking forward

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to Laura Hughes.

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I'm doing a show with the worst title on the in the world. And I regret every day. Laura Hughes presents and it's from the 10th of April to the 16th at the butterfly club.

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Doing only doing one week at the festival that is the sign that is a veteran that is a veteran who's seen some shit.

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That's someone who's died before it was like a month get locked. Much I play a lot of characters so I think I would be dead if I did the whole month.

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I've seen the show and it's very very, very funny. Louis would you like to?

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Well, obviously there's a rational fear second of April. Huge lineup still ticking the Capitol Theatre. I mean, it's beautiful. Wear a suit. Dress up? What a lie. Yeah,

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yeah, please wear a suit. Will you wear a suit if you wear a suit? I'll wear so.

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Fuck it. Yeah, I'll wear a suit. Yeah, all right. Yeah, so isn't that funny? When you're like, work such joke jobs that putting on a suit is like our moment is comedy. I've only got one.

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Dress up as one of your AI characters.

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Oh, fuck. I I know. We're still recording but afterwards, I'll send you the next best one.

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Try and try not to send as try not to send it over a carriage service.

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I can't believe what they did to me. They did me so dirty. So yes, come to irrational fear. Also, if you just eaten Melbourne the weekend and you're like, Ah, no, no, no, it's lawless. I am doing a show at the town hall the night before with my friend Michael hang. It's called Golden Handshake. And then the week after that, if you're like God, I've seen Lewis twice. Love to do it a third time be doing the great debate. Which is really exciting on

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Easter Sunday. That's really exciting. Do you know who you're doing it with?

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I don't I find out tomorrow. Well today by the time this podcast goes out so I'm I'm really excited. It's really fun. I'd loved loved watching them since I was a kid and like I think debating was like the first time I ever wrote a joke. So I'm really excited to Louis you are

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you are built for that. That's gonna be great. I'm finally

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being built for that was profitable.

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I look forward to you putting in a sterling effort to irrational fear.

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You know, I will that's the first thing Yeah,

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it's the first thing Have you written Have you written your piece yet? Yeah, we've

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got another rational people for them to do. No, I fucking haven't written the second one Jesus.

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Yes. If you're listening to this right now you're probably listening. Around the time we are performing on stage at the at the Q PAC at somehow at the World Science Festival in Brisbane this Sunday. You can still get tickets to that so please buy tickets for that and also the following week in Melbourne International Comedy Festival that is it for rational Phoebe thank you to rode mics Australian ethical our Patreon supporters Jacob brown on the teppanyaki timeline Rupert Degas who did that extraordinary David Attenborough. And until next week, there's always something to be scared of. Good night.

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