Ordinary Unhappiness 127: Projective Identification Part I feat. Brian Ngo-Smith
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Dec 27, 2025 
In a thought-provoking discussion, Brian Ngo-Smith, a psychoanalyst and clinical social worker, delves into the complex concept of projective identification. He explores its roots in infant development and its impact on adult relationships, challenging the boundaries between self and other. The conversation navigates the historical tension between Freud and Klein, and offers practical examples from therapy and personal relationships. By unpacking archaic defense mechanisms, Brian reveals how projections can shape emotional dynamics in various facets of life.
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Boundary Formation Debate
- Freud saw projection as a defense that presupposes inside/outside distinction, Klein argued projection can constitute that distinction.
- The debate shows self–other boundaries emerge, not given.
Brennan's Concise Definition
- Teresa Brennan: projection is what I disown in myself and see in you; projective identification makes you actually feel it.
- This frames projective identification as interpersonal transmission of affect.
Analysts Acting Out Unfamiliar Anger
- Colleagues would suddenly report uncharacteristic anger after sessions, bewildering everyone who knew their steady baseline.
- Those outbursts illustrated how intense projective processes can make people act out foreign feelings.
