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Mind Game: Steven Pressfield, The War of Art

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Feb 16, 2025

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Steven Pressfield

Steven Pressfield, renowned author of 'The Legend of Bagger Vance' and 'The War of Art,' shares his journey through resistance and creativity. He discusses the significance of self-doubt as a growth tool and the emotional toll of loss, highlighting how both experiences intertwine in our pursuit of excellence. Pressfield also explores the shift from amateur to professional mindsets in golf and life, emphasizing passion versus obsession, while revealing philosophical ties between golf and personal authenticity. This captivating conversation blends personal anecdotes with profound insights.

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Origin of Resistance

Pressfield theorizes that resistance originates from the ego.
The ego, threatened by the expansion of the self, creates resistance.

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Professional Mindset

Pressfield suggests shifting from an amateur to a professional mindset to overcome resistance.
Professionals embrace the grind and work consistently, regardless of external factors.

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Too Much Love

Pressfield cautions against excessive love for one's work, as it can lead to obsession and burnout.
Professionals understand the importance of breaks and moderation.

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Resilience and Reflection in Golf and Life

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Reflections on Loss and Resistance

04:00 • 14min

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Transforming Mindsets: The Shift from Amateur to Professional

17:52 • 3min

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Navigating Passion and Obsession

21:05 • 16min

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Facing Resistance: Embracing Self-Doubt as a Sign of Growth

36:58 • 3min

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Writing, Golf and Self-Discovery

39:39 • 18min

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Steven Pressfield spent 20 years writing and pitching books to publishers without success. His breakthrough came in 1995 withThe Legend of Bagger Vance. Five years later, he releasedThe War of Art, a bestseller that introduced the concept of resistance—a mysterious force that hinders us from doing our work and realizing our potential. Whether exploring the greatest golf match that never happened, the nature of creativity, the path to professionalism, or the resilience of the human spirit, Pressfield’s work reveals a common thread: he views golf and life as one interconnectedMind Game. In this chat with host Casey Bannon, Pressfield reveals the hidden meaning behind Bagger Vance, how to battle with resistance and what it means to swing your authentic swing.

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