The Gist Is Trump Delusional, or Just Betting We Are?
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Feb 25, 2025 
Will Saletan, a writer for The Bulwark and expert on Trump's presidency, joins to explore whether Trump is truly delusional or merely playing politics. They discuss Trump's impact on U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Ukraine and NATO. Saletan examines Trump's tribal politics, where misguided beliefs clash with reality. The conversation also navigates significant constitutional concerns, emphasizing the importance of collective resistance against Trump's potential executive overreach.
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Trumpism and Ukraine
- Trump's demands for adherence to his assertions, even if false, reveal a pattern in Trumpism.
- Republicans rationalize his statements, creating a challenge for those with expertise.
Damaged Credibility
- Will Saletan believes America's credibility in international alliances is damaged due to Trump's actions.
- Europeans may not rely on America and instead develop their own defenses, including nuclear weapons.
Long-Term Defense Strategy
- Defending Western Europe militarily is in America's interest, preventing further Russian expansionism.
- This long-term strategy requires addressing the problem now to avoid larger future costs.