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Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)

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Aug 29, 2025
Jeremie and Edouard Harris, co-founders of Gladstone AI and experts in AGI implications for the US government, dive into the complex landscape of US-China relations in artificial intelligence. They discuss the dangers of trusting China with AGI, the ongoing espionage threats in Western labs, and the necessity of tamper-proof technology. The conversation emphasizes strategic collaboration to slow China’s AI progress while ensuring transparency and security, highlighting the importance of international cooperation amidst rising tensions.
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ADVICE

Limit Compute Proliferation Now

  • Pursue GPU nonproliferation and allied export controls to limit adversary cluster-scale compute.
  • Combine that with tamper-proof chips and location tracking to enable trust-but-verify regimes.
ADVICE

Use Hardware Guardrails For Verification

  • Build tamper-proof enclaves, remote shutdown, and location-tracking hardware as verification tools.
  • Use these tools to enable bilateral or allied agreements that are otherwise untrustworthy.
ANECDOTE

An Attempted Exfiltration Of Model Weights

  • Gladstone anonymized incident reports about frontier AI security and shared them with the State Department.
  • One report documented an attempt to take model weights from a hyperscaler traced to a Chinese APT.
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