It Could Happen Here

CZM Book Club: Against the State by James Stout

Apr 19, 2026
James Stout, author and conflict reporter who studies anarchist movements, reads from and discusses his book Against the State. He talks about anarchist organizing in Rojava, Myanmar, and Spain. Short scenes include life under bombardment, mountain refuges as political theory, cross-regional solidarity, and memorializing fallen fighters.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
ANECDOTE

Crossing Into Rojava Under Scrutiny

  • James Stout describes crossing from Iraqi Kurdistan into Rojava under tense interrogation and a shaky floating bridge, illustrating the practical risks of visiting an unrecognized polity.
  • He details tea interrogations, Polaroids of Peshmerga relatives, and a bridge on oil drums that emphasized the region's precarity and hospitality.
ANECDOTE

Daily Life In Rojava Amid Bombing And Loss

  • Stout shares daily life in Rojava: morning Fajr prayers, market quizzes on Kurdish, and grieving families with martyr portraits everywhere.
  • He details intermittent power, bombed infrastructure, and 15,000 martyrs reminding residents of constant risk.
INSIGHT

Rojava Is A Practical Experiment In Nonstate Democracy

  • Stout emphasizes Rojava as a living example of building democratic confederalism rather than a utopian theory.
  • He notes the movement adapted PKK ideology—radical feminism and local assemblies—to create real institutions after expelling ISIS.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app