Pablo Torre Finds Out

He Finds Music Stars. Now He's Helping Us Save the Life of a Wrongfully Convicted Man

Feb 17, 2026
Jason Flom, record executive who discovered stars like Katy Perry and now a criminal-justice advocate, describes shifting his instincts from music to freeing the wrongfully incarcerated. He discusses the Charles Flores case, forensic hypnosis and junk science, why media attention matters, systemic incentives that produce wrongful convictions, and how prevention and public pressure can help.
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ANECDOTE

From A Concert Call To Clemency Work

  • Jason Flom describes getting a call about Donnie Lance's execution on his way to a show and feeling compelled to act immediately.
  • He took a shot in Lance's honor and began engaging in clemency work after witnessing injustice firsthand.
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How One Newspaper Story Changed A Career

  • In 1993 Jason Flom read a New York Post story about Steven Lennon and immediately started helping secure new legal representation.
  • That first successful intervention convinced him to spend his career helping incarcerated people.
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Turning A Marriage Into Joint Advocacy

  • Jason Flom and his wife Kalia (Muhammad Ali's daughter) visited death row on their first anniversary trying to stop an execution.
  • Their partnership makes advocacy a shared, daily mission tied to family legacy and courage.
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