The Breakfast Club INTERVIEW: Pastor Michael Todd & Natalie Todd Talk “Relationship Goals,” Therapy & Healing, Druski “Mega Church” skit + more
Feb 6, 2026
Natalie Todd, co-pastor and ministry speaker who champions therapy and family healing. Pastor Michael Todd, lead pastor and author of Relationship Goals who brings faith and cultural insight. They chat about turning a sermon into a film, rebuilding trust after breakups and infidelity, therapy and emotional work, parenting a child with autism, transparency in relationships, and responding to public critique.
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Young Love, Breakup, And Long Repair
- Pastor Michael and Natalie met at 15, broke up, dated others, and rebuilt trust over years.
- Michael intentionally changed to become the man he wanted his daughters to marry.
Trust Is Rebuilt In Drops
- Trust is lost in buckets and rebuilt in drops, so repairs require consistent small actions.
- Many people quit before the slow rebuilding process finishes.
Define Goals; Seek Progression Not Perfection
- Define your relationship goals together and focus on progression, not perfection.
- Aim for continual small improvements rather than chasing online perfection.
