Intelligence Squared Statues, Slavery and the Struggle for Equality with David Olusoga, Dawn Butler and Susan Neiman
Jun 12, 2020
David Olusoga, a historian and author of "Black and British: A Forgotten History", joins Labour MP Dawn Butler, known for her advocacy on racial justice, and philosopher Susan Neiman, who wrote "Learning from the Germans". They discuss the global protests ignited by George Floyd's death, the controversial removals of statues, and the complexities of historical narratives around slavery. They also highlight the impact of inclusive education and the role of youth activism in striving for equality and justice.
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
Germany and Racism
- Germany's condemnation of anti-Semitism is now swift and serious, but racism in general remains a challenge.
- Public education and memory play crucial roles in societal change.
Making Amends
- Dawn Butler suggests teaching true history, creating an emancipation museum, and addressing the ethnicity pay gap.
- She emphasizes dismantling structural racism across multiple systems like the judicial system and education.
Generational Change
- Young people are leading the current racial justice movement, driven by awareness of historical omissions.
- David Olusoga emphasizes their anger over partial truths and their targeted action against symbols like the Colston statue.
