Danny Jones Podcast #264 - Atlantis, Ancient Egypt & Graham Hancock's Lost Civilization | Flint Dibble
Oct 7, 2024
In this engaging conversation, archaeologist Flint Dibble shares his expertise on ancient Greece and the myths of Atlantis. They dive into Plato's controversial account, questioning its historical accuracy and implications. Flint highlights the significance of interpreting ancient texts and explores how ancient practices, like the Eleusinian Mysteries, influenced early Christianity. The discourse also touches on mind-altering substances used in rituals and alternative theories about the pyramids, making for a fascinating blend of history and mystery.
03:21:08
Atlantis: A Game of Telephone
- Plato's Atlantis story's chain of transmission is convoluted, passed down through generations before being written.
- He uses a similar preposterous transmission style for other stories, indicating fiction.
Idealized Statues
- Greek statues idealize their subjects, making them appear more attractive than in reality.
- Don't rely on common sense when interpreting archaeological evidence, consider historical context.
Schliemann's Toads
- Heinrich Schliemann's interpretation of toads found in Troy as being from Hector's time demonstrates flawed use of common sense.
- Avoid interpreting archaeological findings without understanding relevant scientific principles.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Exploring Atlantis: Myths and Archaeological Evidence
02:04 • 10min
Plato's Atlantis: A Philosophical Examination
12:31 • 5min
Unraveling Plato's Atlantis
17:49 • 12min
Unraveling Plato: The Philosophy Behind Ancient Texts
29:44 • 5min
Unraveling Historical Contexts
35:12 • 13min
Context vs. Grooming: A Dual Discussion
48:07 • 3min
Exploring Ancient Texts: The Atlantis Connection
51:17 • 2min
Unraveling Atlantis: Myths and Archaeology
53:26 • 16min
Crafting Ancient Expertise
01:09:52 • 14min
Unraveling Ancient Stone Vases
01:24:13 • 11min
Mystical Substances: Drugs and Ancient Magic
01:34:49 • 22min
Mystery Cults and Early Christianity
01:56:21 • 3min
Exploring the Evolution of Christianity and the Mysteries of Eleusis
01:59:50 • 5min
Exploring Eleusinian Mysteries
02:04:21 • 29min
Beyond Tombs: The True Purpose of the Pyramids
02:33:04 • 6min
Unraveling the Mysteries of the Great Pyramid
02:39:09 • 19min
Unconventional Insights into Ancient Civilizations
02:58:18 • 19min
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Atlantis Rising
T. A. Barron
In 'Atlantis Rising', T.A.
Barron crafts a richly detailed and imaginative tale that intertwines the myth of Atlantis with the story of Promi and Atlanta, two young heroes embroiled in an ancient battle between good and evil.
The book is part of the Atlantis Saga and is praised for its beautiful writing and exciting adventure.
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The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation
Including the Demotic Spells
Hans Dieter Betz
Janet H. Johnson
The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation is a seminal work that compiles magical texts from Greco-Roman Egypt, spanning from the second century B.C.
to the fifth century A.D.
It includes translations of Greek, Demotic, and Coptic texts, offering insights into ancient magical practices and syncretic religious traditions.
The book is invaluable for scholars and enthusiasts interested in the history of magic and ancient cultures.
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Plato's Parmenides
R. E. Allen
This book provides a detailed translation of Plato's Parmenides along with a comprehensive commentary.
It analyzes the dialogue's structure and its implications for Plato's theory of Ideas, relating it to other dialogues and Aristotle's criticisms.
The commentary highlights the aporetic nature of the arguments and their significance in understanding Plato's philosophy.
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Sacred Tales
D. R. Tara
Sacred Tales by D. R. Tara is a compilation of 60 mythological stories designed for children.
The book aims to introduce young readers to a variety of mythological tales, fostering imagination and cultural awareness.
However, detailed information about the author and the book's content is limited.
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Digging up Armageddon
Eric H. Cline
This book tells the story of the early years of biblical archaeology through the excavations at Megiddo, begun in 1925.
It delves into the personal and professional lives of the archaeologists involved, set against the backdrop of the Great Depression and tensions in British Mandate Palestine.
The book provides insights into the discoveries made at the site, including the infamous 'Solomon's Stables', and the challenges faced by the team.
#4614
• Mentioned in 10 episodes
Plato's Apology
Plato
Plato's Apology is a compelling courtroom drama recounting Socrates' defense against charges of impiety and corrupting the youth, showcasing his unwavering commitment to truth and philosophical inquiry.
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Hesiod's Works and days
Hesiod
#4447
• Mentioned in 11 episodes
The Giza Power Plant
Christopher Dunn
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• Mentioned in 7 episodes
Atlantis the Antediluvian World
IGNATIUS DONNELLY
Ignatius Donnelly's "Atlantis, the Antediluvian World" is a significant work in the history of Atlantis theories.
Published in 1882, it revived interest in the lost continent, proposing that Atlantis was the cradle of civilization.
Donnelly connected various myths and legends to Atlantis, suggesting it as the origin of human culture and technology.
The book's popularity fueled a renewed fascination with Atlantis, influencing popular culture and sparking further speculation.
Despite its pseudoscientific nature, it remains a landmark text in the history of Atlantis studies.
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• Mentioned in 10 episodes
The Road to Eleusis
Albert Hofman
R. Gordon Wasson
Carl Ruck
#3945
• Mentioned in 12 episodes
Homer's Iliad
The Basel Commentary
Martha Krieter-Spiro
S. Douglas Olson
Benjamin Millis
Sara Strack
This volume provides a detailed analysis of Book XIV of Homer's Iliad, known for the 'Dios apate' scene.
It includes linguistic, philological, and narratological insights, building on extensive Homeric scholarship.
The commentary is part of the Basel Commentary series, which updates and expands earlier works in the field.
#13329
• Mentioned in 4 episodes
Hesiod's Theogony
Hesiod
Hesiod's Theogony is an ancient Greek epic poem that details the origins and genealogies of the Greek gods.
It describes the creation of the cosmos, the rise of the Titans, and the eventual triumph of Zeus and the Olympian gods.
The poem explores themes of power, order, chaos, and the relationship between gods and humans.
It is a significant source for understanding ancient Greek mythology and religious beliefs.
The Theogony's influence can be seen in later Greek literature and art.
#2289
• Mentioned in 20 episodes
Homer's odyssey
Gwen Cooper
Homer's Odyssey is a memoir by Gwen Cooper that chronicles her life with a blind cat named Homer.
Despite being born without eyes, Homer grows into a spirited and loving companion who faces numerous challenges, including surviving the aftermath of 9/11 and defending his home against an intruder.
Through Homer's adventures, Cooper reflects on the profound impact he had on her life, teaching her about courage, love, and living beyond limitations.
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• Mentioned in 6 episodes
Magicians of the Gods
The Forgotten Wisdom of Earth's Lost Civilisation
Graham Hancock
In 'Magicians of the Gods', Graham Hancock builds on the premise introduced in his earlier work 'Fingerprints of the Gods'.
He argues that a highly advanced civilization existed in prehistory but was destroyed around 10,800 BC by the fragments of a large comet, an event known as the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis.
This catastrophe caused widespread destruction, climate change, and sea-level rise, leading to the end of this civilization.
However, survivors, referred to as the 'Magicians of the Gods', dispersed across the world to pass on their knowledge, contributing to the construction of ancient monuments such as Göbekli Tepe, Baalbek, the Great Sphinx, and the Pyramids of Giza.
Hancock links these sites to the survivors of the prehistoric civilization, suggesting they were built much earlier than mainstream archaeologists have determined.
#3485
• Mentioned in 14 episodes
New Atlantis
Francis Bacon
Written around 1623 and published posthumously in 1627, 'New Atlantis' is a philosophical and utopian work by Francis Bacon.
The story follows a group of sailors who discover the mysterious island of Bensalem, where they encounter a society governed by a democratically elected parliament and guided by the principles of Salomon’s House, an institution dedicated to the advancement of knowledge and the study of nature.
The novel emphasizes the integration of science and ethics in governance and highlights Bacon’s vision of a society where knowledge and reason are central to human progress and happiness.
#3707
• Mentioned in 13 episodes
Plato's Symposium
Benjamin 1817-1893 Jowett
Plato
In this dialogue, Plato presents a discussion on the concept of love (eros) among a group of Athenian intellectuals, including Socrates, Phaedrus, Aristophanes, and Alcibiades.
The dialogue delves into various dimensions of love, such as its relationship to beauty, virtue, and wisdom.
It challenges conventional views on love and presents a philosophical exploration of its role in achieving a good and virtuous life.
The work is set at the house of Agathon, a tragic poet, and features a series of praise speeches that reflect different viewpoints on love.
#20224
• Mentioned in 3 episodes
Timaeus and Critias
Plato
This book is a Socratic dialogue in two parts.
*Timaeus* provides a theoretical exposition of the cosmos, describing the creation of the universe from its beginning to the coming of man.
It introduces the idea of a creator God and speculates on the structure and composition of the physical world, including the four classical elements and their geometric representations.
*Critias*, the second part, tells the story of the rise and fall of Atlantis, an ancient, mighty, and prosperous empire that ultimately sank into the sea.
The dialogue is unfinished and includes discussions on the creation of the human body, senses, and the concept of reincarnation, all grounded in Plato's philosophical ideas about the World of Forms and the nature of reality.
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• Mentioned in 66 episodes
Plato's Republic
Plato
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Troy
Stephen Fry
#1659
• Mentioned in 26 episodes
Fingerprints of the gods
The Evidence of Earth's Lost Civilization
Graham Hancock
In 'Fingerprints of the Gods,' Graham Hancock argues that an advanced civilization existed in prehistory, which served as the common progenitor to all subsequent known ancient historical civilizations.
He proposes that this civilization ended in a cataclysm around the end of the last ice age but passed on profound knowledge of astronomy, architecture, and mathematics to its inheritors.
Hancock uses tools such as archaeo-astronomy, geology, and computer analysis of ancient myths to support his theory.
He explores various ancient sites, including Egypt’s Great Sphinx, the Andean ruins of Tihuanaco, and Mexico’s Temples of the Sun and Moon, revealing evidence of a lost civilization’s vast sophistication and technological advancement.
#6276
• Mentioned in 8 episodes
The Clouds
William James Hickie
Aristophanes
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Flint Dibble is an archaeologist whose research focuses on ancient Greece.
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OUTLINE
00:00 - Graham Hancock
04:17 - Plato's lie about Atlantis
23:36 - Timeline of the Atlantis story
27:31 - Ammon Hillman on Plato
36:05 - Socrates
47:59 - Graham Hancock's sources & the EDFU texts
01:07:19 - Egyptian vases
01:27:32 - High precision ancient artifacts
01:34:05 - Dark magic & ancient drugs
01:47:47 - God & drugs
01:55:28 - Ancient mystery cults & Christianity
02:05:08 - Animal sacrifices in Eleusis
02:17:39 - Ergot: mind-altering fungus
02:27:10 - Socrates' noble lie
02:32:39 - The Great Pyramid & Chris Dunn's Power Plant Theory
02:46:39 - Alternative theories for the pyramids
03:05:50 - Ice core metallurgy
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