CNN’s Fareed Zakaria is one of the best-known journalists on the planet, reaching 200m people weekly with Fareed Zakaria’s GPS. He talks to Ros Taylor about the aftermath of Trumpism, Biden’s prospects for changing the West’s trajectory on climate change… and why the COVID aftermath might lead to a release of hedonism on a par with the Jazz Age.

“Trump is playing brilliant politics with the small side effect of destroying democracy.”
“The defence budget is the only non-controversial jobs programme in the United States. It’s a jobs programme disguised as a defence programme.”
“My fear is that the next pandemic will come from factory farming.”
“It’s absolutely fair to describe what Trump is doing as an attempted coup. It’s just going to fail.”
“Our biggest mistake is to imagine that nature is fond of humans.”

Presented by Ros Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production

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