DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas ICE Gone Wild in El Paso | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Feb 12, 2026
A surreal airspace shutdown in El Paso after a Border Patrol anti-drone system was activated, sparking FAA panic and transport chaos. Heated debate over Pam Bondi’s testimony about Epstein records and partisan document games. Discussion of a bill to funnel voter data to DHS and impose citizenship proof rules. Tensions rise as a second carrier group heads to the Persian Gulf and Russians evacuate from Cuba.
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Epstein Hearing Reveals Political Theater
- Pam Bondi's Capitol Hill performance mixed contempt with deflection rather than factual explanations about the Epstein files.
- John and Ted criticize both sides for failing to have released or pursued the full records earlier.
Expect Legal Pushback On Federal Voter ID
- State control of voter rules means federal overreach like the Save America Act faces constitutional challenges.
- Expect procedural reports and likely legal pushback before any nationwide voter-ID scheme could take effect.
Why New Zealand Matters In Intelligence
- New Zealand's Five Eyes membership reflects historical Commonwealth ties and strategic geography, not sheer size.
- Ted and John note elites buy distant locations like New Zealand as insurance against global catastrophe.
