Animal Spirits Podcast Talk Your Book: How Infrastructure Funds Work
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Oct 13, 2025 Scott Litman, Managing Director at GCM Grosvenor, dives into the fascinating world of infrastructure investing. He discusses the surging demand for data centers, emphasizing the unique risks and opportunities they present. Scott also explores the divide between energy and digital infrastructure, forecasting a 15–20 year build-out phase. He reveals different access points for investors and the role of leverage in infrastructure deals. With insights on cash flows, yields, and deal sourcing, Litman provides a comprehensive look at why advisors are increasingly including infrastructure in alternative portfolios.
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Seek Long-Term Hyperscaler Contracts
- Prefer data centers backed by long-term hyperscaler contracts for cash flow certainty.
- Avoid speculative builds that depend on finding tenants after construction unless you accept higher risk.
Multi-Decade Buildout Forecast
- The buildout of data center capacity and power supply will likely span 15–20 years with steep growth to 2030.
- Data centers are a small but fastest-growing share of electricity use, rising from ~5% to ~10% by 2030.
Use Public Vehicles If Private Is Inaccessible
- Public markets offer infrastructure exposure via ETFs, utilities, and IPPs if private access is unavailable.
- Consider REITs for data center exposure if you cannot access private infrastructure funds.