The Tucker Carlson Show Tucker Debates Biotech CEO on Baby Customization, Eugenics, and God’s Existence
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Apr 13, 2026 
Kian Sadeghi, founder of Nucleus Genomics and a Thiel Fellow, faces a fierce debate over embryo screening and choosing traits like IQ, sex, and disease risk. They clash over eugenics, disability, and whether optimization distorts human life. The conversation also turns to God, souls, suffering, and the moral limits of reproductive technology.
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India's Ban Challenges The Self Correcting Claim
- Tucker Carlson uses India's ban on sex-selective abortion to challenge Kian Sadeghi's claim that selection problems self-correct.
- He argues policymakers intervened because individual choice was already destabilizing society before any long-run evolutionary balancing could occur.
The Missing Question Is Always The Downside
- Tucker Carlson keeps returning to the downside question, saying unprecedented reproductive control demands explicit attention to unintended consequences.
- Kian Sadeghi concedes one danger is concentrated misuse by centralized bodies trying to control reproduction at scale.
The CCR5 Babies Show Nature's Hidden Tradeoffs
- Kian Sadeghi cites He Jiankui's CCR5-edited babies as a concrete warning about trying to improve embryos through gene editing.
- Knocking out CCR5 aimed to resist HIV, but it may also raise vulnerability to other pathogens by altering an immune receptor.
