EP 122: Okta CEO Todd McKinnon on Scaling to $13B, High-Stakes Decisions, and Market Dynamics

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Nov 8, 2024

Todd McKinnon, Co-founder and CEO of Okta, shares insights from scaling his company to a $13B industry leader. He discusses the high-stakes decisions that shaped Okta, including the importance of market timing and building a strong team. Todd reflects on the psychological shifts in leadership and the critical relationship with board members. He also emphasizes the need for long-term thinking in investor relations and the challenges of innovation amidst growth, offering compelling anecdotes from his entrepreneurial journey.

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ANECDOTE

Market Timing

Okta faced challenges in its third year due to the market being too early.
Sales took off in Q3 2011, signaling the market catching up.

ADVICE

Interviewing for Motivation

Focus on candidates' career decisions and motivations during interviews.
Assess their past responsibilities and growth to gauge their potential.

ADVICE

Reference Checking

Conduct thorough reference checks, including back-channel ones.
Identify key strengths and weaknesses by asking about specific projects.

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What does it take to scale a company from an idea to a $13B industry leader? In my latest episode, Okta CEO Todd McKinnon dives into the essential lessons he’s learned on high-stakes decision-making, managing up to the board, and competing against tech giants like Microsoft.

Todd also reflects on his journey to founding Okta, his bold choice to team up with a co-founder he hardly knew, and the motivations that have fueled him for over seven years as a public company CEO. Some key takeaways…

[0:00] Intro
[0:33] Todd McKinnon's Early Career and Founding Okta
[1:38] Challenges and Psychological Shifts in Leadership
[2:49] Decision Making and Company Culture
[6:10] Milestones and Early Successes
[18:03] The Importance of Market Timing
[30:34] Hiring and Building a Strong Team
[39:22] Setting Expectations with Board Members
[40:50] The Shift in Board Dynamics
[41:41] Maintaining Context and Strategic Input
[43:15] Navigating Public Company Governance
[45:21] Trusting Instincts and Founder Mode
[47:11] Breaking Out of the Echo Chamber
[51:00] The Importance of Prioritization
[53:05] The Loneliness of Innovation
[1:05:33] The Role of a CEO in Decision Making
[1:18:17] The Journey to IPO and Beyond

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Producer: Leah Clapper

Mixing and editing: Justin Hrabovsky

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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.

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