E48: The Person You Mean to be: How Progress Requires Activism and Understanding

In this episode, author and professor Dolly Chugh joins the program to discuss the ways in which seeing ourselves as "good" can lead to greater fragility, and introduces the idea of being a "good-ish" person and what that entails. She also discusses the ways in which creating lasting change requires both confrontation and engagement and how leaders can use both for maximum impact.