Jordan Hall, Co-founder of the Neurohacker Collective, dives into the intricate ties between humanity and AI. He explores how community values can shape ethical technology use and critiques the separation of state and market roles in AI governance. Hall discusses the historical evolution of the commons, the rise of neo-feudalism, and the existential risks posed by AI concentration. He advocates for personal AIs that reflect individual values and emphasizes the need for cohesive societal values to foster genuine connections in a rapidly changing technological landscape.
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Forever Chemicals: A Cautionary Tale
Forever chemicals, like Teflon, pose potential risks to humanity, such as lowered testosterone.
This exemplifies short-sighted decision-making driven by perceived convenience.
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AI's Unique Threat
AI's self-levering acceleration distinguishes it from other existential threats.
It acts as both output and input, creating a rapid feedback loop.
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Capitalism's Influence on AI
Hyper-financialized capitalism's pursuit of short-term returns drives the encounter with AI.
This focus on immediate profits shapes AI development in predictable ways.
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Jim talks with Jordan Hall about the relationship between humanity and advanced AI. They discuss the false dichotomy of state vs market control of AI, the commons & the church as organizing principles, community vs society, why alignment with humanity is by definition impossible, the role of symbols & organizing principles in communities, how Moloch & Mammon shape AI development, hyper-concentration of power, neo-feudalism, the possibility of an AI singleton, entropy in communities, an alternative path centered on intimate AI, individual values, integrity, restoration of the commons, the potential for rapid dissemination, the choice between good & expediency, mutual self-correction, collective action guided by higher values, the need for a properly functioning priestly class, and much more.
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Jordan Hall is the Co-founder and Executive Chairman of the Neurohacker Collective. He is now in his 17th year of building disruptive technology companies. Jordan’s interests in comics, science fiction, computers, and way too much TV led to a deep dive into contemporary philosophy (particularly the works of Gilles Deleuze and Manuel DeLanda), artificial intelligence and complex systems science, and then, as the Internet was exploding into the world, a few years at Harvard Law School where he spent time with Larry Lessig, Jonathan Zittrain and Cornel West examining the coevolution of human civilization and technology.
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