The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Wings Are Eating the Center | Interview: Elliot Williams

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Oct 2, 2025
Elliot Williams, former deputy assistant attorney general and CNN legal analyst, joins Jonah Goldberg for a lively discussion. They dive into the implications of the Comey indictment and whether current political conflicts are reshaping party identities. Elliot highlights legal limits on domestic military use and how Congress has ceded oversight powers. They also examine the tension between justiciability and presidential actions, advocating for a pluralistic approach to counteract cultural monocultures on both sides of the aisle.
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ADVICE

Limit Military Role In Cities

  • Avoid using the military for routine domestic law enforcement; the law and practice sharply limit that role.
  • Coordinate with governors and mayors and use military support only in narrow, legal back-office roles.
INSIGHT

Popularity Doesn’t Trump Law

  • Jonah and Elliot stress that political popularity doesn't override legal constraints.
  • They say congressional oversight should check presidential power but Congress has ceded authority instead.
ADVICE

Pick Up The Phone First

  • When federal forces get involved locally, pick up the phone and coordinate with state and local leaders.
  • Use consultation to avoid legal disputes and maintain public trust.
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