
The Director’s Cut - A DGA Podcast The Fantastic Four: First Steps with Matt Shakman and Edward Zwick (Ep. 556)
Aug 22, 2025
Matt Shakman, known for directing The Fantastic Four: First Steps and renowned shows like Succession, joins Edward Zwick for an insightful chat. They discuss the balance of family dynamics within the superhero narrative, emphasizing relatable challenges like parental anxiety. Shakman shares his preference for practical effects, evoking a retro futuristic style, and the importance of collaboration in filmmaking. They also touch on the evolving impact of AI technology in visual storytelling, raising questions about the future of creativity in film.
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Galactus As A Parental Mirror
- Galactus became a thematic antagonist who amplifies parental stakes by wanting the baby for his own purposes.
- The character lets Reed learn to surrender control and accept his child's future.
Parallel Storyboarding And Script Work
- Develop design and storyboard elements in parallel with script drafts to shape scenes early.
- Use storyboard sequences to inspire script changes and vice versa during development.
Hire Better People And Set Clear Direction
- Hire and listen to people more talented than you to improve the film's outcome.
- Articulate clear story, tone, and style so contributions align and remain additive.




