RONZHEIMER. Politics and War What Putin says about the war in a one-on-one conversation. With Viktor Orban
Jul 8, 2024
Viktor Orban, Hungary’s long-serving prime minister known for his blunt, nationalist style, reflects on his Moscow visit and talks with Vladimir Putin. He describes why he pursued direct contact, outlines a multi-actor plan for ceasefires, and explains risks of escalation and territorial tradeoffs. He also discusses Europe's strategic autonomy and how upcoming diplomacy could unfold.
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EU Presidency Must Prioritize Peace During Wartime
- Viktor Orban says the EU rotating presidency must address peace because Europe is living in wartime and cannot ignore the conflict next door.
- He frames short-term urgency: the next 2–3 months before the U.S. election will see increased intensity and casualties unless action is taken now.
Peace Requires All Five Major Actors At The Table
- Orban identifies five main actors: Ukraine, Russia, United States, China, and the European Union and says dialogue must include them all.
- He describes his visits to Kyiv and Moscow as the start of a broader fact‑finding and diplomatic effort to collect positions.
Europe Is Copying A War Policy Not Leading Peace
- Orban contrasts positions: he says China has a peace plan while the United States runs a war policy and Europe copies the U.S., making Europe effectively pro-war.
- He urges Europe to develop an autonomous strategic approach because Europe bears the main geographic and economic costs.