With The Perrys

The Art of Stewarding Your 5 Loaves and 2 Fish: A Convo with Dallas and Amanda Jenkins

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Oct 13, 2025
Dallas Jenkins, filmmaker and creator of The Chosen, and Amanda Jenkins, co-creator, dive into the fascinating journey behind their globally popular series about Jesus. They illuminate how a box-office failure led to their deep reliance on God’s guidance, using the 'five loaves and two fish' principle. The duo shares insights on humanizing biblical figures, crafting a relatable Jesus, and balancing creative work with ministry. They also discuss handling criticism and staying authentic while remaining true to Scripture, enriching the Gospels with cultural context.
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INSIGHT

Participation Before Multiplication

  • God involves people in the work so human participation precedes divine multiplication.
  • The miracle moment is God's alone, while people are called to play their limited, meaningful part.
ADVICE

Write From Scripture Then Be Plausible

  • Start every scene with Scripture, then make choices that are authentic and plausible.
  • Avoid violating Jesus' character and include a disclaimer encouraging viewers to read the Gospels.
INSIGHT

Humanize To Close The Distance

  • Humanizing biblical characters makes the story relatable and removes the distance of stained-glass portrayals.
  • Depicting ordinary habits and personalities reveals the Gospels' lived reality and invites intimacy with Jesus.
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