
The Foreign Affairs Interview The Age-Old Contest Between Land and Sea
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Nov 20, 2025 In this engaging discussion, S. C. M. Paine, a strategy expert from the U.S. Naval War College, delves into the age-old contest between maritime and continental powers. She explains how the U.S. has historically thrived as a maritime force but warns of a concerning shift in strategy. Paine contrasts the territorial focus of Russia and China with maritime trade's advantages, highlighting the risks of tariffs and protectionism. She underscores the importance of maintaining a rules-based maritime order and reflects on historical warnings to avert future conflicts.
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Mahan's Maritime Pivot For The U.S.
- Alfred Thayer Mahan persuaded the U.S. to prioritize maritime trade over territorial conquest.
- He argued oceanic commerce, not landmass, made modern great powers wealthy.
Anticipate Follow-On Effects
- Think through follow-on effects before making policy pronouncements.
- Avoid half-court thinking that ignores how others will respond to U.S. moves.
Territory Shapes Continental Strategy
- Continental powers prioritize territory and strong armies because of geography and insecure borders.
- Their security logic makes conquest and brutal deterrence rational even if costly.



