
The Rollup The Rollup TV: AI x Crypto, 0G, CMS Holdings
Sep 22, 2025
This discussion features Michael Heinrich, an AI and crypto visionary, who shares insights on Zero Gravity's mainnet launch and the intricacies of ZeroStack DAT mechanics. Renk, CEO of Giza, delves into on-chain AI agents and the innovative Pulse product that automates financial strategies. Dan from CMS Holdings provides a macro market overview, analyzing trends in DeFi, credit dynamics, and the evolving landscape of revenue-generating tokens and ETFs. Expect a fascinating blend of tech insights and financial forecasts!
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Design Token-Aligned Revenue Paths
- Monetize AI agents via management fees and a cut of deployed incentive rewards to fund growth and buybacks.
- Return fees to token buybacks, liquidity, and hires to align token appreciation with usage.
Zero Gravity Launch In Korea
- Michael Heinrich described chaotic launch logistics in Korea and quick fixes to glitches like claim delays.
- Despite stress, Zero Gravity launched with 22 exchanges live and significant local attention.
How DATs Drive Token Accumulation
- DATs (decentralized autonomous trusts) aim to accumulate underlying tokens and drive token-per-share growth.
- Pricing a DAT pre-listing requires independent valuation and can reflect premiums to net asset value.
