The Talk Show With John Gruber

436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes

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Nov 30, 2025
Tyler Hayes, a savvy technology writer and newsletter author, dives into the world of small phones and foldables. He makes a case for the Motorola Razr, arguing it's a beacon for pocketable devices. Together with John, they debate the usability of the Razr's front screen and reflect on Apple's decision to discontinue the mini. The pair also discusses the evolving landscape of Apple TV, highlighting its growing catalog and new sonic logo, all while providing holiday gadget recommendations like compact chargers and smart home accessories.
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INSIGHT

Width Trumps Thinness For One-Handed Use

  • One-handed reachability often outweighs thinness when choosing a phone; width drives daily usability.
  • John finds the Air's thinness appealing but its increased width harms one-handed interactions.
ADVICE

Grab A Refurb Mini While You Can

  • Buy a refurbished iPhone 12/13 mini now if you need a genuinely small non-fold phone.
  • Watch iOS update longevity—refurbs age and will stop receiving updates eventually.
INSIGHT

Apple's 'Financial Boner' For Expensive Devices

  • Apple dropped the mini partly because small models were low-volume, low-price and hurt margins.
  • Apple prefers high-price, low-volume products like foldables for better financial incentives.
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