Ascend - The Great Books Podcast Introduction to Dante's Purgatorio with Dr. Jason Baxter
Today on Ascend: The Great Books Podcast, Dr. Jason Baxter and Dcn. Harrison Garlick come together to introduce Dante's Purgatorio and Dr. Baxter's new translation!
We are reading Dante's Purgatorio for Lent. Join us!
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DISCOUNT: Check out Dr. Jason Baxter's website and enter "Ascend" to receive **20%** off the Purgatorio audiobook read by Dr. Baxter!
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And thank you to the Center of Beauty and Culture at Benedictine College for promoting this reading of the Purgatorio!
Dr. Baxter first describes the Center for Beauty and Culture at Benedictine College as a fellowship program (Angelico Fellows) that immerses students in beauty across the arts, music, literature, and theology—through concerts, museums, and pilgrimages—to foster interiority and the conviction that “beauty can save the world.”
The conversation then contrasts Purgatorio with the Inferno: while the latter is dark, lurid, and focused on judgment, Purgatorio is a place of hope, mercy, transformation, and “eternal New Year’s resolutions,” where repentant souls engage in spiritual exercises to purify their tarnished mirrors, learn authentic love and prayer, and prepare for Paradise. Baxter likens the shift to moving from heavy metal to Schubert, emphasizing greenness, brightness, and unexpected mercy.
Baxter explains that his translation began as a personal quest for mastery—going word-by-word to internalize Dante like memorizing a piano piece—but evolved into a philosophy capturing Dante’s “fugue” of style: ascending, prolix syntax with lofty classical allusions layered over humble, earthy words that reflect Franciscan humility and incarnational Christian poetics. Examples include goats ruminating on the “foco d’amore” (fire of love) amid elevated star imagery, or Statius calling Virgil’s Aeneid “una mamma” (translated “mommy”).
He describes Purgatorio as spiritual surgery—painfully removing the soul’s “carcinogenic” elements through grace-filled cooperation—and a map for configuring to Christ beyond mere sin avoidance. Baxter advises first-time readers to pause at puzzling images or word choices, ask “why would Dante do that here?,” trust their instincts, and consider his audiobook for the text’s soundscape, while Deacon Garlick stresses the canticle’s role as a spiritual guide that mirrors one’s own maturation toward God.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Ascend and Dante's Purgatorio
03:43 The Center for Beauty and Culture
05:40 Understanding Dante's Purgatorio
07:54 The Nature of Purgatorio
14:54 Dante the Pilgrim vs. Dante the Poet
19:32 The Spirituality of Translation
20:14 The Philosophy of Translation
30:02 Dante's Christian Poetics
34:22 Exploring Dante's Poetic Style
36:51 Juxtaposition in Dante's Imagery
41:42 The Concept of Spiritual Surgery
44:49 The Journey of Holiness
48:13 The Role of Love in Dante's Theology
52:00 Eros and the Ascent to Divine Beauty
55:29 Engaging with Dante: Tips for First-Time Readers
Join us next week as we start Dante's Purgatorio for Lent!
SCHEDULE:
2.10.26: Introduction with Dr. Jason Baxter, Benedictine College
2.17.26: Cantos 1-5 (Ante-Purgatory) with Dr. Donald Prudlo, University of Tulsa
2.24.26: Cantos 6-12 (Ante-Purgatory, Gate, First Terrace) with Luke Heintschel, Headmaster, Coeur du Christ Academy
3.3.26: Cantos 13-17 (Envy and Wrath) with Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson, Pepperdine University
3.10.26: Cantos 18-22 (Avarice and Prodigality) with Dr. Sarah Berry, University of Dallas
3.17.26: Cantos 23-27 (Gluttony and Lust) with Fr. Patrick Briscoe, OP
3.24.26: Cantos 28-31 (Earthly Paradise) with Dr. Michael West, University of Dallas.
3.31.26: Cantos 32-33 (Beatrice) with Joshua Charles and Dr. Frank Grabowski, Holy Family Classical School
DISCOUNT: Check out Dr. Jason Baxter's website and enter "Ascend" to receive **20%** off the Purgatorio audiobook read by Dr. Baxter!
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