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Cognitive Scientist Maya Shankar On Navigating Unexpected Life Changes, The Neuroscience Of Identity, & How To Unlock Your Next Self

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Jan 15, 2026
Maya Shankar, a cognitive neuroscientist and former advisor at the Obama White House, shares her insights on navigating life's unexpected changes. She explores the tension between voluntary and involuntary changes and how our brains resist uncertainty. Maya discusses her personal journey through identity crises caused by injuries and losses, emphasizing the importance of redefining identity beyond roles. She offers practical strategies for embracing change as a revelation while cultivating curiosity and agency in the face of adversity.
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INSIGHT

Illusion Of Control Fuels Uncertainty Aversion

  • Humans overestimate control and hate uncertainty because control supports meaning and motivation.
  • When change shatters that illusion, we feel disoriented and threatened.
INSIGHT

Reframe Change As Revelation

  • Reframe severe change as revelation rather than apocalypse to invite curiosity.
  • Change can reveal hidden parts of ourselves and accelerate growth we wouldn't choose but can benefit from.
ADVICE

Use Self-Affirmation To Regain Perspective

  • Use self-affirmation to broaden identity and reduce denial after loss.
  • List meaningful roles and values not threatened by the change to regain perspective.
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