
The Hill & Valley Forum Podcast Senator Joni Ernst, Keith Rabois, and Ramp CEO Eric Glyman | First Principles for Smarter, Leaner Government
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May 3, 2025 In this engaging discussion, Senator Joni Ernst, a U.S. Senator focused on government efficiency, teams up with Eric Glyman, CEO of Ramp, a finance automation platform, and tech leader Keith Rabois. They explore the shocking misuse of taxpayer funds, tackling issues like federal payment tracking failures and remote work abuse. Ernst highlights the need for adopting advanced commercial technologies to enhance efficiency, while Glyman reveals how modern financial systems can prevent inappropriate spending. Together, they envision a smarter, leaner government that saves taxpayer dollars.
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Adopt Programmable Cards in Government
- Use programmable corporate cards to enforce spending policies and prevent unauthorized purchases.
- Implementing commercial credit card tech in government can save billions by reducing waste and fraud.
Commercial Tech Benefits Broader Gov
- Commercial technology used in defense can also improve efficiency in everyday government services.
- AI and cross-referencing data can stop improper payments, like Social Security to deceased individuals.
Ramp Technology Boosts Efficiency
- Using Ramp's platform increased productivity by 46% and continues improving rapidly.
- Eliminating 5-15% of government credit card abuses could save billions annually.


