The Dissenter

#1141 Matti Häyry: Cloning and Antinatalism

Aug 25, 2025
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Matti Häyry
Matti Häyry, a Professor of Philosophy specializing in moral and political philosophy at Aalto University, dives into the intricate world of cloning. He distinguishes between pure and impure cloning, discussing ethical objections rooted in theology and the complexities of 'playing God.' The dialogue explores utilitarian morality and bioethics, weighing the benefits of new technologies against moral concerns. Häyry also critiques identity issues for cloned individuals and embraces the provocative intersections of cloning, reproduction, and feminist bioethics.
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INSIGHT

Hopeful Principle Versus Precaution

  • Bio-utilitarian optimism rests on a 'hopeful principle' that favors action if potential benefits exist.
  • Critics counter with the precautionary principle, urging caution when harms are uncertain.
ANECDOTE

Sentimental Example Of Cloning Use

  • Matti and Tuija use a sentimental example: a couple cloning a lost child to have them back.
  • This scenario illustrates a positive utilitarian case for pure cloning when no enhancement is involved.
INSIGHT

Kantian Concerns About Treating Persons

  • Kantian deontology centers on respecting humanity as an end and not treating persons merely as means.
  • Kantians often view producing a child by cloning as potentially treating the child as a mere means.
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