Understood: Deepfake Porn Empire The Making of Elon Musk | E2: Technocracy, Inc.
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Oct 14, 2025 Geoff Leo, a senior investigative journalist for CBC, delves into the intriguing life of Joshua Haldeman, Elon Musk’s grandfather, who made waves in the 1930s Technocracy movement. They discuss how Haldeman's controlling personality and technocratic ideals might have influenced Musk’s own worldview. From the historical context of the Great Depression to the complexities of Musk's early career and his ties to the 'PayPal Mafia', the conversation explores the delicate line between techno-optimism and authoritarianism, raising questions about the legacy of the past in today's tech landscape.
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Technocracy As Anti‑Democratic Order
- Technocracy argued that engineers and scientists should run society to bring order and efficiency.
- Joshua Haldeman embraced this anti-democratic technocratic vision during the 1930s Dust Bowl crisis.
Haldeman's Move And Fatal Crash
- Joshua Haldeman left Canada after a government crackdown and moved his family to South Africa believing it fitted his vision.
- He later died in a 1974 plane crash when Elon Musk was three years old.
Singular Vision, Centralized Control
- From Zip2 onward Musk cultivated a myth of singular visionary leadership and intense control.
- That pattern favored top-down decision making and silenced dissent across his ventures.