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From “Inside the Hive”: Gavin Newsom’s Risky Podcast Gambit

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Mar 28, 2025
Claire Howorth, executive editor of Vanity Fair, discusses Gavin Newsom's bold foray into podcasting with Radhika Jones. They analyze Newsom's strategy to reach across the political aisle, engaging figures like Steve Bannon while addressing the challenges of polarization. The conversation shifts to Newsom’s potential presidential aspirations and the Democratic Party's struggle with young male voters. Howorth critiques the risks of appealing to right-wing populists, questioning whether this gambit will enhance or hinder his political future.
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ANECDOTE

Podcast Guest Selection

  • Michael Calderone notes Newsom's podcast features right-wing figures like Charlie Kirk, Michael Savage, and Steve Bannon.
  • While some debates are spirited, others seem overly chummy, especially with Kirk, and Newsom fails to challenge Bannon on false election claims.
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Newsom's Podcast Strategy

  • Newsom's podcast, "This is Gavin Newsom," aims for challenging conversations.
  • This contrasts with his other, less political podcast, "Politiken," co-hosted with Marshawn Lynch.
ANECDOTE

Lack of Depth in Discussions

  • Newsom's podcast aims for "honest discussions" with differing viewpoints, but often results in mere chuckles, lacking depth.
  • An example is his agreement with Charlie Kirk on the "completely legit" issue of fairness in trans athletes competing in women's sports.
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