The Alisa Childers Podcast #370 Reacting to Progressive and Deconstruction TikToks | Monique Duson & Phoenix Hayes
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Apr 19, 2026 
Phoenix Hayes, founder of NEON who equips youth pastors, and Monique Duson, president of the Center for Biblical Unity and critic of wokeness in the church, react to viral progressive and deconstruction TikToks. They call out confident bad arguments and wrestle with claims about scripture, deconstruction trends, generational divides, and social media theology. Quick, candid, and provocative conversation.
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Seminary Textual Criticism Is Nuanced Not A Coverup
- TikTok claims that "all pastors" hide skeptical scholarship oversimplify complex seminary learning about text formation.
- Phoenix and Monique note seminaries teach textual variants but conservative scholars conclude most variants don't change meaning, so the leap to "Bible not true" is unwarranted.
Bring Tough Biblical Questions Into The Church
- Do proactively address hard historical and textual questions with your congregation so skeptical voices don't set the frame first.
- Monique recommends pastors bring these topics into Sunday school or forums before TikTok-first sources shape believers' conclusions.
Gospel Diagnosis Compared To Cancer Treatment
- Alisa shares an analogy comparing gospel diagnosis to cancer to show why telling sinners they're broken can be loving.
- She explains the ruler feels abusive only if the diagnosis is false; if true, the cure (gospel) is life-giving.